Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Allentown, PA in popular culture
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. Consensus is that spinout was not appropriate for this content fork. Jreferee t/c 00:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Allentown, PA in popular culture
a trivial breakout page about a small American city. Most "in popular culture" articles are not considered notable, and this is one of those "it was too big a section for the main article" breakoffs. There is already a simple/suitable section for this on the main page. Prod was placed, but was removed by the article creator. Dannycali 05:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - A few of the items can go back into the main article on Allentown, the rest are non-notable, and some are not even "in popular culture." SolidPlaid 06:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - listcruft. StaticElectric 08:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect to Allentown, Pennsylvania#Allentown in popular culture which already contains the notable items on this list. The remaining entries are trivial (United 93 passing over Allentown is the "best" example of this). No real reason not to give our readers a pointer to the main article however. Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:40, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Couldn't have said it better myself. Most entries are trivial mentions, not "Allentown PA in popular culture". MarkBul 16:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect per Sjakkalle ffm 12:47, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect per Sjakkalle. --Metropolitan90 12:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect per Sjakkalle. User:Dimadick —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 13:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep or merge and redirect without deleting. The information is well organzed and with references added verifiability wouldn't be a problem. Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 14:43, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect per Sjakkalle. Granted, most towns have not had a popular hit written about them, but after Billy Joel, most of the references are trivial. It's kind of like Peoria in popular culture, which I hope is a red link. Mandsford 16:26, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment I don't mind a redirect for the most part, but I thought that should be done if the term may be commonly searched for. I just don't see anyone typing "Allentown, PA in popular culture" in the search box. Dannycali 19:45, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete We don't to talk about every popular culture mention of a mid-size town. WP:TRIVIA and WP:V failures.--JForget 23:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Importantly captures some of the important and relevant references to this city, which help define it and which are widely known, but which belong on this stand-alone page, not in the main one, given the number of entries. A valuable page. PAWiki 23:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
- See WP:USEFUL Blahblahme 04:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete unless there is a GFDL issue, which doesn't seem to be the case. Trivia about a minor american town, violates multiple wikipedia policies. No one will search for an article named Allentown, PA in popular culture nither, so if it's redirected, I'm placing it on MFD. Blahblahme 04:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- And it'll fail. For one, you want RfD. For another, it doesn't meet the criteria for a delete. --UsaSatsui 16:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. I see people commenting that nobody will type "Allentown, PA in popular culture" into the search box. That may be true, however there is a real possibility that some people will type in "Allentown popular culture" into an online search engine, and come across this AFD debate via Google or Yahoo. In that case, the redirect will be useful enough since one can just click the AFD's heading and get to the correct article. Sjakkalle (Check!) 13:14, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- If anyone searches for "Allentown popular culture" after this article has been deleted, the first result that appears on Google will be the Allentown, Pennsylvania article, with the In popular culture section clearly shown. The chances of anyone finding that section via this afd on Google are non-existant, since afd discussions virtually never show up in Google results. Crazysuit 02:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- Redirect to Allentown. Well, we're sittin' here in Allentown...and they're closing all our articles down...Out in Bethlehem they're doing fine, splitting out forks, nobody minds...--UsaSatsui 16:44, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- Say, that's pretty good! "And the Wikpedia we never found...and I don't know if this article can stay... ay-ay-ay... ay-ay-ay... ay-ay-ay... it's an article on Allentown." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mandsford (talk • contribs) 21:33, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete and no redirect. As has already been explained by others, no one will ever search for "Allentown, PA in popular culture". If anyone is looking for information about Allentown in popular culture, they would probably already be looking at the Allentown, Pennsylvania article which already contains the relevant In popular culture section, and if they weren't, they'd find it easily enough. Crazysuit 02:05, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- Delete under trivia guideline. I don't know why people think they can't remove trivia dumps from articles, but have to instead spin it off. Gazpacho 06:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
