Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/All Saints Church, Wilden
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was Keep. Rje 15:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] All Saints Church, Wilden
A nn church in the United Kingdom. The page mostly consists of gossip, and the church gets 300 Google hits [1]. Páll (Die pienk olifant) 21:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Delete Per nomWeak keep see what develops it does contain some notable works of art. --Nick Y. 21:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)- Weak Keep While this is not a particularly significant church, it does exist and the historical associations with the Baldwin family are correct. Schools seem to be notable enough to be retained; if so, churches should be too. Peterkingiron 23:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Strong Keep I am surprised that it should be considered for deletion on the grounds that it consists of gossip. I can detect no gossip on it at all. All the existing material in the article is of a factual nature with no comments of an opinionated nature. The church has direct association with a British Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin, two Pre-Raphalite stained glass artists (William Morris and Edward Burne-Jones), a President of the British Royal Academy of Arts Edward Burne-Jones, and the founder of one of the UK's largest iron and steel companies pre-nationalization (Alfred Baldwin), two British MPs and chairmen of the Great Western Railway namely Alfred Baldwin and his son Stanley Baldwin. The church also has indirect association with Rudyard Kipling. There is considerable scope for the article to be expanded with both text and photographic illustration. There is an equal need for an article on the Worcestershire village of Wilden. DonBarton 23:47, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Comment Feel free to add this iinformation to the article and improve the writing at the same time. Expand it even a little and I think it will be kept.--Nick Y. 23:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
- Strong keep. Cleaning out church stubs or whatever is an excellent thing, certainly, but people should try and follow the links in the article to see whether notability has been established. Stanley Baldwin was thrice PM in the 30s, for heaven's sake! And a Burne-Jones window would make anywhere notable. Sheesh. Hornplease 06:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per DonBarton. The Burne-Jones and Morris connection certainly makes the church notable enough. (I also can't see the gossip here; all the people are mentioned for good reasons. And why should we care about Google hits for a 19th century country church?) up+land 07:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- Very strong keep. The article gives a nice overview of this old church. That alone would equal obvious keep for me. But look at the people associated with this + stained glass windows by Edward Burne-Jones, one of England's greatest 19th century artists. I would ask that the nom consider withdrawing this nom. -- JJay 20:01, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.