Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alison Irwin

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Despite impassioned delete arguments, appears to warrant her own page per keep arguments. Turnstep 06:31, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alison Irwin

Not notable. Participation in a television show is by itself not sufficient to be notable, see WP:BIO. Even more, what she did on those shows can and currently is included on the television show pages. All similar characters of the BB-7-USA show shouldn't have a page either. Sijo Ripa 15:03, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Per above. Sijo Ripa 18:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Other actors/actresses have their own pages. Andrew73 17:47, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, she's not an actress. Secondly, the articles of non-notable actors/actresses should be deleted as well. You can help by putting a deletion tag on them. Thirdly, you haven't addressed the issue of notability in any way for this or other BB7-USA-participants. Sijo Ripa 18:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

I guess it depends how you define "actress." In any event, she is more notable than other Big Brother participants who have their own pages. In addition, she has participated in another major reality show, The Amazing Race and has won several local pageants. Andrew73 21:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

All such BB-7-USA character pages should be deleted and they can and should be added to this deletion proposal. This is not an effort to single her out as the most non-notable, on the contrary. They all are non-notable. An merely participation in a few television shows makes one not notable, see: WP:BIO. Sijo Ripa 21:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Alternatively, she does get about 350,000 hits on Google. Andrew73 22:04, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

No, she gets 24,000 hits for "Alison Irwin" and 283 for "Irwin Alison". Note however that a google test is a controversial tool and is rarely used to give conclusive evidence for notability. For instance: notable people from ancient history can get little or no hits, while a non-notable character from a contemporary television show can get a few thousands. Note also that she is already included on the BB-7-USA page, which is already more than enough. Sijo Ripa 22:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. There are too many articles on wikipedia on insignificant people. All should be deleted.--Shrek05 21:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect to Big Brother (USA season 7). --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 01:39, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect ; agree with Coredesat, and it's a good compromise.--JCipriani 02:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --Yunipo 13:25, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Please state your argument(s). This is not a vote, but a discussion. Sijo Ripa 14:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete and Redirect to Big Brother (USA season 7). Not-notable. There is already a big feature on this lady there. The editors of that article can add anything else they want from here. Merge can simply be undone by any editor nest day. BlueValour 22:40, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. has not made any notable acheivements outside her limited appearances on both programs. --Madchester 00:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- there is ample precedent on Wikipedia for keeping articles on insignifigant people. It would not be fair to apply new standards now. Orangehead 15:49, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Those articles should be deleted as well. You can and should put a deletion tag on them. Thanks for the help! Sijo Ripa 15:58, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

• Keep -- as Orangehead points out, there are plenty of articles on so-called insignificant people on Wikipedia; athletes, actors, politicians, authors, and so on. Who is insignificant to one user, who may not be a sports fan, may be significant to another. Anyone who appears on a reality program, especially making the final two of one series, probably more than passes the professor test, for example. Alternatively, a merge-and-redirect could be a compromise. I just don't think it's warranted in this case. --Kat0211 04:56, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep-this article is doing no one any harm. Why remove it? Plus, several other previous Big Brother contestants have their own pages. Furthermore, this article may be helpful for Big Brother fans curious about Big Brother history.Jim16 03:04, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Firstly, Wikipedia is not an indiscisriminate collection of information nor a fan page (see WP:NOT). Secondly, I've already mentioned several times that other BB contestants should be deleted as well (except when they have done notable things off course). Thirdly, everything which is relevant to BB is already mentioned on the BB-pages. There is no need for a seperate page. Sijo Ripa 10:43, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

• keep please two big brother series plus another show is notable erasing this is the wrong answer Yuckfoo 01:39, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
• keep I don't see any point in differentiating between reality show contestants and actors. The line is too fuzzy. To me, being in three shows is notable. --Havoclad 04:57, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.