Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex vera

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was delete. The votes of the anonymous and suspiciously new users were discounted due to our persistent history of users attempting to bias our decision-making through the use of sockpuppets. Rossami (talk) 06:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alex Vera

A musician with "massive success" but no entries on allmusic or artistdirect; Zero Google hits for "Kharisma Records"; Only five hits for '"alex vera" "keep it real"', and the top one is a myspace page. User:Zoe|(talk) 23:55, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy Delete as non-notable musician. This page is most likely part of the "massive music campaign" mentioned on his recently-launched website. Fightindaman 00:16, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I thought about speedying it, but the "massive success" made me list it here. User:Zoe|(talk) 00:38, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
      • A quick look at his website makes it clear that this was made up in an attempt to sound notable. It says that he has just released a demo which he is using to try to get a record deal, not a massive success by any means. Fightindaman 00:40, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Though there's quite a few results in a Google search for "Alex Vera," the only relevant ones are for his own website and MySpace. Likely to simply be self-promotion. — Rebelguys2 talk 00:20, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as it fails WP:MUSIC. Bobby1011 00:27, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as above.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 01:28, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Do not delete- per the notability defintion 'Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above.' His co-writing with Essra Mohawk makes him qualify for non-deletion. Contact her at essra@rockersusa.com to verify if you must. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.34.177.39 (talk • contribs) .
    • Don't delete: I agree with the above comment. Also I know he has had a song called 'Holiday' on the Winter Music Conference 2005 Compilation CD. Site www.wintermusicconference.com. Per above definitions from link mentioned by Bobby1011, Has been prominently featured in any major music media. He's been published, I say keep the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.196.33.3 (talk • contribs) .
      • A track on a minor compilation CD which you have to pay to get on is not really "featured in major music media." Not to mention, the website does not list the artists on the CD, so it cannot even be verified that he is on it. In addition, the contributions with Essra Mohawk are also unverifiable (he doesn't even mention them on his site). What is verifiable (if we treat his site as a reputable source) is that he's putting out a demo in hopes of landing a record deal. This fails the criteria at WP:MUSIC as already mentioned. Fightindaman 05:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
      • He mentions it in the link entitled 'career' that he has collaborated with Essra Mohawk.
  • Delete per numerous excellent reasons above. Just zis Guy you know? 10:21, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Don't Delete why bother deleting when this will probably be added back in here within the year if this guy's popularity increases? Jason777 13:56, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I think this qualifies as he has the notability by ONE of the criteria listed at WP:MUSIC 'Has credit for writing or co-writing either lyrics or music for a musician or ensemble that qualifies above.' His co-writing with Essra Mohawk is the only thing he needs as the definition at WP:MUSICsimply states needs one requirement. Keep. Resonancebliss 17:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per the myspace test. Stifle 09:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep you're wrong. If you read the MySpace test page myspace test it says: 'most notable concepts, people, bands, etc. at least own their own domain.' He does own his own domain it's www.alexvera.com. The MySpace rule applies only if MySpace is his ONLY domain, in this case it's an additional domain and not his only one. Madonna has a MySpace page too, www.myspace.com/madonna along with Marcos Hernandez www.myspace.com/marcoshernandez and Gorillaz www.myspace.com/gorillaz. Does this make them ineligible too? Read before you answer and I say keep the article.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crazyeights (talk • contribs) .
  • Comment: Having a myspace in itself is not a disqualification to being notable. But when you have a myspace and a new domain name which isn't finished yet, this begins to cast some doubts. Also let it be known that this is Crazyeights first and (as of now) only edit to Wikipedia. Fightindaman 16:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: This may be my first edit to Wikipedia but that should have no bearing over my knowledge and input to this matter. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crazyeights (talk • contribs) .

Furthermore let the record show that www.alexvera.com is NOT a new domain name as you mention, per www.godaddy.com it was created on January 16, 2001. Being that the domain name was registered more than 5 years ago does not make it a new domain name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crazyeights (talk • contribs) .

  • Keep I wasn't really interested in this conversation but since I saw lots of posts on it i just wanted to contribute. Alex Vera also has another domain alexandervera.com created on: 12-Apr-02. -Jessika Diaz
  • Comment: Also, he is listed under http://www.rockmusiclist.com/rock_lat.htm Rock and Roll Discography Reference. He's listed under his full name Alexander Vera for covering 'I Drove All Night'. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.41.194.119 (talk • contribs) .
    • What does having a domain in your own name have to do with notability? User:Zoe|(talk) 22:22, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep I read everyone's comments and I think there are more reasons to keep than deleted. Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.196.33.3 (talk • contribs) .
  • Keep I heard of this singer. In fact there is another article on him at http://www.artistopia.com/Music-Artists/Press-Read.asp?ID=9556D504-3F8B-4E86-AD68-B5C8640855EC&Release=115 User:Andysdandy|(talk) 22:22, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
    • Another first contribution. Fightindaman 04:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.