Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alex Cisak
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Kurykh 03:58, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Alex Cisak
Contested prod. Goalkeeper on loan to a conference club. Fails WP:BIO as he has never played in a fully-professional league. Article can be recreated if he ever plays for Leicester. пﮟოьεԻ 57 17:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. пﮟოьεԻ 57 17:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
KeepWeak keep - From what I can tell, the subject has "competed in a fully professional league" by playing for the Tamworth Football Club. Even though he got sent down (though I suppose he's up again for the rest of the season), I think the above is enough for this brief and to-the-point article. Additionally, being mentioned by the BBC hints at notability, and the article is pretty well-referenced. -FrankTobia (talk) 18:23, 21 January 2008 (UTC)- Comment Tamworth have never competed in a fully professional league. League Two (level 4) is the highest all-pro league in England, the highest Tamworth have reached is the Conference (level 5). It is well established in WP:Football that Conference players are not article-worthy unless they have played in the Football League. пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I suppose the subtleties of what defines "fully professional" are lost on me. I still think the subject is notable enough for the stub article it has, and I'd like to see some demonstration of these types of players being non-notable before I change my position. Also, if it's true that members of the Tamworth Football Club (among others) are not notable, then many more articles need to be deleted. -FrankTobia (talk) 19:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Fully-professional means that all teams in the league are professional. The Conference National has several semi-pro teams (e.g. Farsley Celtic), so is not a fully-pro league (but more importantly, Tamworth themselves are not pro). Note this AfD from earlier in the week on another Tamworth player, deleted for the same reason. You can find loads more here, e.g. this and this. пﮟოьεԻ 57 19:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- I suppose the subtleties of what defines "fully professional" are lost on me. I still think the subject is notable enough for the stub article it has, and I'd like to see some demonstration of these types of players being non-notable before I change my position. Also, if it's true that members of the Tamworth Football Club (among others) are not notable, then many more articles need to be deleted. -FrankTobia (talk) 19:07, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Tamworth have never competed in a fully professional league. League Two (level 4) is the highest all-pro league in England, the highest Tamworth have reached is the Conference (level 5). It is well established in WP:Football that Conference players are not article-worthy unless they have played in the Football League. пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete clearly fails WP:BIO, as Conference isn't a fully-pro league--BanRay 23:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BIO. Peanut4 (talk) 01:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:BIO. Qwghlm (talk) 19:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
