Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aldo Franco Arabic

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The result was delete Aldo Franco Arabic. I hate to do this but I don't see enough below to delete Franco Arabic too, so it will need a separate AFD, or perhaps WP:PROD will work. W.marsh 14:48, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aldo Franco Arabic

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Asserts notability (for example WP:MUSIC #7, representative of notable style, and #2, charted hit), but that does not seem to be verifiable; only google hits seem to be Wikipedia mirrors, and the external links don't go anywhere useful. Hoax, perhaps? It was previously deleted per G11 (blatant advertising) but that doesn't seem as true in this version. A tag was placed to delete per G4 (recreation of deleted material) but that doesn't apply to speedy deletions. Rigadoun (talk) 06:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

In addition, I suggest deletion of the article about the style, Franco Arabic, which I couldn't find any references to as a specific genre of music (i.e., it is perhaps a neologism) on the web, and again the external links are useless. I just noticed there are allegations of sockpuppetry against the users creating these pages as well. Rigadoun (talk) 06:25, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

There's an image, listed as PD, from a previous version of this page that should be deleted if the article is, Image:Image-Aldo.png. Rigadoun (talk) 06:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Note also that oncoming links to both pages seem to have been created by the author(s): Arabic music, Dalida; others recently by 124.120.39.83 (talk · contribs) (presumably the author logged-out) Amr Diab, Hisham Abbas, Angela Dimitriou and 124.120.35.163 (talk · contribs) Jayashri Ramnath, and 124.120.35.235 (talk · contribs) Omar Sharif. I can't find anything earlier than about six days ago. Rigadoun (talk) 06:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Delete both Aldo Franco Arabic and Franco Arabic per the Wikipedia:Verifiability concerns given above. -- Michaelbusch (talk) 19:11, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per above unless reliable sourcing is produced. Verifiability matters. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
• Delete this article, as above, but *weak keep for Franco Arabic: there's at least one website referring to it, which wouldn't be out there unless some people used the term. Concerned there's not more on the web though. Shouldn't these votes be separated? Drmaik (talk) 18:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
  • Which one? Of the links here, I could only find trivial references, and on a google search I couldn't find any that seemed to be on the topic of the article, or indicating anything more than just a nationality. Rigadoun (talk) 17:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
    • This one. I agree most of the other external links are junk. May be it isn't enough to establish notability, but it seems to indicate something's there. Drmaik (talk) 06:20, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
      • OK, yes, that might establish something exists, though it's hard to tell what it is (or if it's a specific genre). However, there's a problem that none of the artists mentioned here are there and vice versa, so there's a problem with verifiability of the facts in this article. Rigadoun (talk) 08:42, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.