Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alderman quilley

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result wasKeep and rename to Quilley School of Engineering, the proper name of the school. Obviously, expand the article as well with sources. Keeper | 76 18:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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Non-notable school. Google search for the name reveals about 1300 results, but they are primarily from websites that are merely directories of various schools. Gromlakh (talk) 19:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete, non-notable. Insignificant coverage in secondary sources. Doctorfluffy (talk) 03:17, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
• Keep and rename "Quilley School of Engineering" - All high/secondary schools are notable as consensus in WP:OUTCOMES indicate. Under both names, Googlenews turns up many secondary independent sources regarding this school. [1][2]. And this article was nominated for deletion within 30 minutes of its creation. Unless an article is blatant spam or vandalism, it should not got up for deletion so soon. It often talks months, sometimes years, for articles to improve. --Oakshade (talk) 06:19, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - Could you point to where in WP:OUTCOMES it says that all high/secondary schools are notable? I did not see that anywhere. It just says that in AfD debates, high schools generally end up not being deleted, but those that do usually just get redirected to their school district page (assuming that's already been made. Gromlakh (talk) 14:02, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• That high schools are being kept is an indication of consensus. There's no evidence that consensus has changed prior to this AfD. --Oakshade (talk) 18:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't say anything about a consensus to keep all high schools. Most are, but not all. This one doesn't have any demonstration of notability. Gromlakh (talk) 22:15, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• It's everything about what consensus has found. It's the only indicator of previous consensus we have, and that is WP:CONSENSUS has found high schools notable. --Oakshade (talk) 22:27, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

If some are still being deleted/redirected back to their school district page, then there is no such consensus to keep all of them. Gromlakh (talk) 22:30, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• "Some" are NOT "still" being deleted. High schools weren't being deleted in the first place and I've not seen any deleted since I've been paying close attention in the last year. --Oakshade (talk) 22:59, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

• Keep' Almost no high school articles are being deleted. Even a low quality stub like this one can be improved. The point of OUTCOMES is that it saves the trouble of nominating things that will clearly be kept, even though it has no authority on its own. I support the consensus because even if 20% or so of the high schools would turn out strictly speaking to be non-notable, it isnt worth the trouble of trying to remove them--we'd probably make more than that frequency of errors if we considered them individually. Its the junior high schools and elementary schools (in US terminology) thta are being combined into articles for the districts unless something really special is shown. DGG (talk) 16:26, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.