Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Kistler

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If you have any questions, please contact me at my talk page. Ian Manka 03:36, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Alan Kistler

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Delete - does not appear to have the requisite independent sources attesting to his notability. Being mentioned in an essay collection or being contacted by a documentary filmmaker does not notability make. Apparently, "Alan Kistler has often stated he would like to pubish his own fiction pieces" and "several comic book fans have e-mailed MonitorDuty.com to offer their support that he will one day write for the professional comic book industry." Should that day ever come, then perhaps this gentleman will warrant a Wikipedia article. Until then, no. Otto4711 19:00, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Hopeless. Excerpt: "...he will one day write for the professional comic book industry." Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Save - The article has been edited to exclude superfluous information and now adds that he has actually been published as a cartoonist by a professional organization and that dialogue from him will be in the upcoming "Secrets of College Survival" book and that he's now being sought by a second documentary crew (though they may only be independent). Considering how many comic book related Wikipedia articles reference him and how he's all over google, I see no harm in letting this article remain for comic book fans who are curious. Jackofhearts2099 15:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)Jackofhearts2099

• WP:NOHARM is not a particularly compelling argument. There are still no independent sources, as are required for Wikipedia articles. Otto4711 15:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

My main point is that there's enough interest from many comic book fans about his work that it makes sense to me to have at least the brief summary that is currently his article. If more independent sources are needed, then I say that's a problem that can be fixed rather than deleting the article entirely, which seems unecessary to me when he's a published freelance cartoonist and is all over google. I've seen a wikipedia entry or two on internet cartoonists who don't get paid for their online comic strips. Just my thoughts. Jackofhearts2099 06:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Jackofhearts2099

• OK, but see, that's not how it works. If there are no independent reliable sources then there can be no article, however convenient it might be for people interested in him. Otto4711 12:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Save- The individual focused upon in this article is referenced all over the internet, in various publications and is well known within the science fiction/comic book community. Any google search will pull up multiple articles, stories, reviews and cartoons that have been written and created by Alan Kistler. A wikipedia article is a fantastic way to link all of his work on one easy site containing multiple links and a simple rundown of his many accomplishments. Please keep this article. Xlillybelle 15:33, 6 April 2007 (UTC)xlillybelle

note: — Xlillybelle (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Mr Stephen 15:39, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

Xlillybelle has contributed an entry and done more edits since that comment was made. She's new and I don't see that that should be held against him or her. Jackofhearts2099 06:32, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Jackofhearts2099

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.