Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Devine
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This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page, if it exists; or after the end of this archived section. The result of the debate was keep (no consensus). Sjakkalle (Check!) 28 June 2005 09:50 (UTC)
[edit] Alan Devine
Non-notable actor. — Gwalla | Talk 04:32, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete non notable. JamesBurns 07:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete: Fine movies, but the article tells us nothing. He "may be seen" in them, but where? Where should we look? Is he an actor or an extra? Geogre 15:05, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I was a little suspicious of this at first, but IMDB reveals it's true. Needs expansion. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 16:16, Jun 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep If it's in IMDB then it is notible, 'non-notible' is being used too often as a heavey club to destroy articles. --ShaunMacPherson 18:04, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Delete. Doesn't appear to meet WP:BIO to me.IMDB doesn't show him as anything but a bit player (British scout, Man in black, boy on beach #1). DoubleBlue (Talk) 22:31, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)- Vote changed. See below. DoubleBlue (Talk) 04:58, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. As per DoubelBlue. Wait til he gets a speaking role, or at least a character with a name. And IMDb = notability is nonsense. IMDb will post anything. Some other folks Shaun thinks are notable: [1] [2] [3]. Can't wait to see their articles. -R. fiend 23:12, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per DoubleBlue and R. fiend. IMDB entry does not indicate notability. Quale 08:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, not notable. Having an IMDb entry doesn't indicate anything. —Xezbeth 08:34, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Small roles in small movies. Should everyone who has ever been in a movie, regardless of how small their role, automatically get a Wikipedia entry? The IMDB is a movie database, but I don't think Wikipedia should become one too. Gamaliel 08:43, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - many small roles in many small moview does it for me. -- BD2412 talk 18:48, 2005 Jun 22 (UTC)
- keep please his imdb entry looks notable to me Yuckfoo 23:01, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Looks like the entry has been expanded. For DoubleBlue and R.fiend, I checked IMDb myself and he has been named characters. I don't know how many of his movies have made it to the States, but I saw Veronica Guerin. He played a mobster named "Gerry Hutch" and he had lines. Notable enough for me. - --Fishcakefillet 03:26, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- I'll admit I've never seen the film but he is listed 19th on the cast beneath unnamed characters on IMDB's listing for Veronica Guerin and the Filmbug (now linked from the article) site's listing of Veronica Guerin does not even mention him. However, on your say so that he's had a series of minor roles in big films, I'll change to a weak keep. DoubleBlue (Talk) 04:58, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Yeah. I noticed that too. But in the movie site for filmfactory that was used in his bio, he is the fourth of seven actors that they do biographies of. [http://www.thefilmfactory.co.uk/vguerin/cast.html Alan Devine on Veronica
Guerin cast] --Fishcakefillet 16:05, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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- There article may have been expanded, but I'm not sure it's been improved. Now it reads like one of these VfD votes (according to IMDb he's been in all these movies:... I also found out he's done this too...Who says this guy's not a real actor? (OK, I exaggerate)). Wikipedia articles generally only list major roles (or else we'd have a list of a couple thousand films for actors like James Woods, and any guys who have been doing it forever). If this article is to be kept which of his roles are the "major" ones should decided upon. Cleanup needed. -R. fiend 19:02, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Yes, IMDb is inclusive but this actor does appear to have played several notable and named characters in film. Hall Monitor 16:09, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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