Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alan Barnes

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The result of the debate was Delete --Allen3 ^talk 14:32, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Alan Barnes (recreation of A. Barnes)

Delete. No more notable than your average college professor, fails WP:PROF. In fact, the Uni's website lists no course in Physics, so I wonder what's going on here. Clearly he's not employed there for his prowess in relativity and Google finds about 50 hits for "Alan Barnes" physicist. -Splash 01:08, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

NOTE:The two articles here are identical and for the time being I've redirected the abbreviated one to the full one.-Splash 01:44, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete unless someone comes up with a list of his published work. Hamster Sandwich 01:40, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi, maybe I found the wrong A. Barnes on the web? The one I have in mind has 13 entries in the exact solutions book. (See the citations for the exact solutions article.) Any information appreciated. Also, please compare List of contributors to general relativity with the bibliography of MTW or the exact solutions book to assure yourself that I plan to discuss only some of the LEADERS in this field over the past 80 odd years.---CH (talk) 01:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

I'm not too sure where you're pointing here. Exact solutions is a redirect to an evidently relevant article that doesn't mention Barnes, and List of contributors to general relativity was only created today (with this particular gent added by you). Why is he teaching at a new university (mind my POV there) that appears to offer no courses in the numerate sciences, let alone physics? -Splash 02:16, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, Not notable, I have tens of thousands of Google hits and over twenty novels to my credit and I damn well don't see my bio on Wikipedia yet. ;-) Xaa 01:56, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
  • Bang goes your pseudonymity (and don't forget to put quotes around your name when Googling...) -Splash 04:19, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
    • LOL! Wasn't trying to hide to begin with, I *always* use 'Xaa' as an online pen-name. It's even in my e-mail addy.
       ;-) Xaa 04:26, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete nn professor cv cruft. --Etacar11 04:13, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Splash and all, please bear with me. First, I emphasize again that I did have high standards for the persons I included in my list (others have added some other people I am trying to have moved to more appropriate lists). "The exact solutions book" is the monograph by Stephani et al. cited in Exact solutions in general relativity; this monograph is widely regarded as a standard reference in this field.

If you have an account on the arXiv you can check that Alan Barnes of Acton University has quite a few papers there, so the Barnes I described certainly does publish research papers on gtr. I'd caution you against assuming that someone employed at a university which doesn't offer physics courses cannot have an active research career in physics, since this Alan Barnes is obviously a counterexample! Academic jobs are hard to come by (especially in Britain, or so I am told), so some talented persons may choose to accept a seemingly inappropriate teaching job in order to remain in the profession in which they have been highly trained. Also, on occasion, quite distinguished retired professors have been known appointments with small colleges, simply so that they can teach from time to time.

Nonetheless, I now guess the A. Barnes I had in mind is an older person by the same name, and yes, I should have checked more carefully that I had the right A. Barnes. I have tried to contact by email Alan Barnes from Acton University to see if I can clarify this situation. I may may not have made a mistake, but if so, it was an honest mistake. (What does "cruft" mean?)

I think the best fix would be to let me correct the page once I have information about the A. Barnes cited in the monograph (some of these papers are widely regarded as important), rather than simply deleting it.---CH (talk) 22:33, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

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