Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ajax (Declarative Programming)

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The result of the debate was delete. Woohookitty 08:00, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ajax (Declarative Programming)

• Delete. The Ajax article already exists. This is additional original research. Not notable. --Sleepyhead 10:14, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

• Keep. The Ajax article explains the Javascript approach to AJAX programming. This new article provides information on Declarative (XML tag based) programming approach to create Rich User Interface. This is a fundamental different programming approach that is worth mentioning (similar to discusion about relational database vs xml database). Both categories exist and are are worth mentioning. Thank you for your future contributions to the Declarative AJAX article. -- Jouk 31 August 2005

• Delete Strong Delete. The Ajax article exists and is active; Google shows 134 unique hits for the search term Ajax "declarative programming", and as far as I can tell, none of them have to do with the two terms combined into a single concept. This is original research, and it's by the same person who has been somewhat spammy about adding links to his company to the Ajax article, the Rich Internet Application article, and created an article about his company. Jason t c 13:27, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Comment: I hadn't even noticed that the article was authored by user Jouk pleiter, and openly states that the "declarative programming" model of Ajax was "introduced in a vision paper by Backbase's Jouk Pleiter." This pretty much seals the spamminess of this all for me; I've changed my vote to a strong delete. (And note that the only editor of the page other than the VfD nominator is 62.58.16.163, who acknowledges that he is Jouk Pleiter in this diff. Again, further reinforces my feelings on this article, and on his behavior.) Jason t c 14:25, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. Policy violations DV8 2XL 14:51, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

• Comment Why Keep this Article? Of course I'm open about my identity. The programming model of Declarative AJAX is very different from JavaScripting AJAX. If you look at declarative GUI programming models like XUL (mozilla foundation), MXML (macromedia), Laszlo (OpenLaszlo) and XAML (microsoft) it is very logic to have a dedicated page on Declarative AJAX. I agree with you that it is a sub flavor of the overall AJAX trend. But I don't see the argument that sub-flavors cannot have their own article. The fact that the previous mentioned declarative GUI programming models all have their onw article, justify (in my opinion) the reason for a Declarative AJAX page. Regarding to your point that at this moment there is only one contributor: it seems to me that there are many pages on WP that have only one or two contributors. The Ajax page seem to have a limited number of contributors as well (one being yourself and sleepyhead if i'm right). If I understand it correctly any topic should have the right to be listed on WP (as long as it follows the guideliness) and it also should have the chance to allow other people to contribute. Jouk pleiter

Jouk, please only vote once. In addition, nobody's arguing that the fact that the article has only one author is an issue, but rather that the article acknowledges that that one author -- you -- is the originator of the concept of "declarative programming" in Ajax. (I point you again to WP:VANITY, the vanity guidelines, that frown upon article creation under these pretenses.) In addition, absent any discussion of who authored the page, the concept that has no notability whatsoever (see the Google search above); if it takes off and becomes something huge, then perhaps the article will resurface at that point. I just posted a note to your account user page, in the spirit of helping you understand a bit more what Wikipedia is about and what the guidelines are regarding behavior here; I am being honest in my offer to help you understand why creation of an article like this isn't the best thing to do, and likewise, why the addition of links all over Wikipedia to the company you're CEO of isn't the best thing to do. Jason t c 15:15, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

• Delete merge any good content into main AJAX article. --Macrakis 15:40, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

• Delete or Merge (this delete has been introduced by a visionary paper by Quasipalm -- the greatest voter ever!) I can't stand self-promotion in wikipedia. --Quasipalm 20:36, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
  • I worship at the feet of your not-vote. I'm crafting an article Quasipalms Notable Delete Votes, capitals, adjective and all. ;) Splash 23:51, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Dottore So 23:34, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Will not aid accidental linking or searching if retained as a redirect. -Splash 23:51, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. No merge needed. Quale 18:47, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

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