Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Agon (tokusatsu)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. This AFD is now a month old, and there is no chance of interpreting what to do over a period that long. My suggestion is to renominate in a new afd. Honestly, there's no point in relisting more than once per AFD discussion because it just runs too long then. -Royalguard11(T·R!) 18:38, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Agon (tokusatsu)

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Does not meet WP:Notability requirements. A fictional character for four episodes, possibly COPYVIO for having the lyrics included. Failed PROD. Editor who removed PROD did not address notability, but instead said Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy and not paper? Collectonian 19:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

• Keep: Notable, Wikipedia is not supposed to be a bureaucracy, Wikipedia is not paper.--Neverpitch 19:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC) — Neverpitch (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. Neverpitch is mass voting on every AFD as a keep using the same rationale. vote stricken by admin as user is attempting to make WP:POINT
• Delete per nom. Neverpitch, please explain why the subject is notable, and why the article does not assert notability. See below Pagrashtak 20:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. —Quasirandom 00:38, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

• Oy, this isn't a character article -- it's a TV show article misnamed after its title character. The fictional character notibility guidelines don't apply here. Which is not to say in its current form it adequitely satisfies the notability requirements for a show, but it needs a good-faith chance to do so under the correct guise. Keep, move to Giant Phantom Monster Agon, tag as a stub, and notify the relevant WikiProjects (Japan and TV, probably) that it needs urgent help, and give them a few months to work on it (I'd suggest six, given that sources are likely to be in Japanese). If it doesn't get sources for notability, then bring it back. —Quasirandom 00:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Caknuck (talk) 21:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spellcast (talk) 16:40, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

• Move to Giant Phantom Monster Agon, and rework into an article about the show and not the character. Pagrashtak 17:07, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mailer Diablo 12:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Move to Giant Phantom Monster Agon. I can't read Japanese, but the Japanese wiki has an article for what seems to be this TV series. – sgeureka ^t•c 12:59, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Just because it existed dosn't make it notable. Is it a notable TV mini-series? This is the key to the articles inclusion...--CastAStone|^(talk) 20:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

  I am not aware of a case where a TV show was declared non-notable. It's a pretty old series, so that explains its stubbiness even in the jp wiki. But if I'm reading it right, the Japanese article was created about two years ago. If the article survived for that long on the Japanese wikipedia, I don't doubt the notability, and it probably shouldn't be deleted even though it will forever remain a stub here. – sgeureka ^t•c 23:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

• Rv deprodding deprodded against WP:POINT (see top of discussion and article history). --Thinboy00 @32, i.e. 23:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
• There isn't even an article for the television show it's from. And Japanese television characters are a dime a dozen. I see no indication that this specific character is notable. I (talk) 23:15, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete or Move per above. Article is empty if you remove the show information. Fails WP:V and WP:RS. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:01, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.