Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afterhour clubs
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was stubbify and keep. Non-admin close. Jfire (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Afterhour clubs
Wikipedia is not a travel guide, the article is wholly unsourced and unable to be sourced and continually verified due to the changing nature of these clubs to avoid scrutiny. It's almost entirely a list of red links (for NN clubs) and ghits on the topic are primarily forum discussions looking for info in particular cities. Travellingcari (talk) 19:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep and stubbify The concept is real, and possibly encyclopedic in nature, but this article needs to be renamed (to After hours club) and the entire list need to be removed. The article is a mess, but it could be cleaned up. Since a valid encyclopedia article COULD be written about this topic, I see no reason to delete it as is. Massive cleanup needed is not a valid reason for deletion. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:40, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree a need for cleanup is not a reason for deletion, the reason for deletion was the complete lack of reliable sources about the topic to be found. Travellingcari (talk) 19:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- A quick search of google news shows that this is a legitimate concept; while it may be hard to parse out sources which describe the concept of an "after hours club" rather than simply reporting on specific after hours club, there is at least enough here to show me that as a concept, this is a solid real thing. Even if the article is crap, the fact that numerous real, reliable publications discuss it show that it should at least merit an article now. Also, even google scholar has good stuff. Again, while it is hard to parse out sources about the concept "after hours club" from sources that simply mention a specific after hours club in passing, such sources are clearly there. So, the best solution for this article may be to clear out the bullshit lists, leave it as a stub, and let someone who cares come along and expand it later. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 21:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Done I didn't see anything in your sources that actually defined an after-hours club but that's for someone else to figure out. You can close if you want. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 23:15, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
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- A quick search of google news shows that this is a legitimate concept; while it may be hard to parse out sources which describe the concept of an "after hours club" rather than simply reporting on specific after hours club, there is at least enough here to show me that as a concept, this is a solid real thing. Even if the article is crap, the fact that numerous real, reliable publications discuss it show that it should at least merit an article now. Also, even google scholar has good stuff. Again, while it is hard to parse out sources about the concept "after hours club" from sources that simply mention a specific after hours club in passing, such sources are clearly there. So, the best solution for this article may be to clear out the bullshit lists, leave it as a stub, and let someone who cares come along and expand it later. --Jayron32.talk.contribs 21:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- I agree a need for cleanup is not a reason for deletion, the reason for deletion was the complete lack of reliable sources about the topic to be found. Travellingcari (talk) 19:48, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - but it is a stub with a list. What amazes me is that so many of the venues appear to have articles. I am not sure about the present article-name. Might not "Afterhours nightclubs" be better. There are lots of these in England, dating back to the period when pubs had top close at 10.30 or 11 pm, but they are called nightclubs. They operated on the theoretical basis that they were private members clubs, not open to members of the public. Peterkingiron (talk) 21:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep and expand. Sourcing would seem to be trivial.DGG (talk) 23:38, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. There are no references to verify anything claimed in this article. No prejudice against creation of a sourced article that illustrates the subject's notability. y'american (wtf?) 16:30, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Article is a stub for an important topic. Stub needs expanding, but it certainly should be kept. Dgf32 (talk) 16:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
