Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/After the Sirens
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. W.marsh 21:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] After the Sirens
Contested prod. Non notable band, fails WP:MUSIC. Band plus label gives 29 distinct google hits[1], they haven't made an album yet, their one TV appearance looks to be rather minor (10 distinct Ghits), and no other WP:V reviews are found (one online review on smother.net only[2]). Label has only three artists, so not a major label either. Fram 05:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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- The entry meets WP:MUSIC based on criterion #9, "Has won or placed in a major music competition." As mentioned in the entry, the band placed in the 2004 "Shake Stuff Up" competition (sponsored by Rolling Stone magazine, the Got Milk? campaign, and MTV) as the winner for the state of Massachusetts. Also, Fram is incorrect in stating that the band hasn't made an album yet. The band released "We Have No White Flags" in 2005. The 8-track release was briefly circulated independently before being picked up by Blue Duck Records. The album is distributed throughout New England in the United States as well as being readily available for international purchase online through various retailers. The album is also distributed in Japan exclusively by online retailer STM, whose label is scheduling a 2007 Japanese release of the band's forthcoming album (to be released in the USA on November 28). The band has also toured extensively around New England since 2003. The band's cable television debut (also mentioned in the entry) was on the Steelroots program on INSP, which wikipedia cites as reaching 21 million homes. The program itself has a viewership of 7 million. The band has also been featured on several major New England radio stations, including Boston giant WFNX, as well as a host of college radio stations across the United States. Rydorn 07:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- An EP isn't an album, so they haven't released an album yet, and the album they will release is on a very small label. I don't think the "Shake Stuff Up" can count as a "major music competition" (compare to the "Major Music Award", which is of the level of Grammy and Mercury Prize: a Major Music Competition should be something like the Eurovision Song Contest, or Idol (yep, it's bad, but it's a major bad thing anyway). This is clearly a minor music competition: being sponsored by Rolling STone and MTV is completely different from being organised by them. From the website[3]: "The Shake Stuff Up Tour scouted local bands with the potential to become the next big thing. Two bands were selected in each city to face-off, head-to-head, in a battle of the bands. Check out the local market winners below": local bands, with potential, in a city/ So After the Sirens was the best of two unknown bands from Boston, Massachusetts... Online distribution doesn't really count, so what else have you got... Toured New England... New England is still not a country (as asked for by W:MUSIC), and anyway, it should be "reported in notable and verifiable sources.". So, one more criterium not met. The TV appearance: I can't verify it, it seems to have passed unremarked, and it doesn't meet one of the WP:MUSIC criteria either. In fact, nothing here is verifiable, and nothing meets WP:MUSIC... Fram 08:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- The entry meets WP:MUSIC based on criterion #9, "Has won or placed in a major music competition." As mentioned in the entry, the band placed in the 2004 "Shake Stuff Up" competition (sponsored by Rolling Stone magazine, the Got Milk? campaign, and MTV) as the winner for the state of Massachusetts. Also, Fram is incorrect in stating that the band hasn't made an album yet. The band released "We Have No White Flags" in 2005. The 8-track release was briefly circulated independently before being picked up by Blue Duck Records. The album is distributed throughout New England in the United States as well as being readily available for international purchase online through various retailers. The album is also distributed in Japan exclusively by online retailer STM, whose label is scheduling a 2007 Japanese release of the band's forthcoming album (to be released in the USA on November 28). The band has also toured extensively around New England since 2003. The band's cable television debut (also mentioned in the entry) was on the Steelroots program on INSP, which wikipedia cites as reaching 21 million homes. The program itself has a viewership of 7 million. The band has also been featured on several major New England radio stations, including Boston giant WFNX, as well as a host of college radio stations across the United States. Rydorn 07:27, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Keep if the info above is added to the article and sourced. Chubbles1212 07:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete mostly per Fram's response to Rydorn. Non-major award, no other evidence of notability. Xtifr tälk 11:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per above research and an article that lacks assertion of meeting WP:MUSIC. Battle of the Bands → WP:NN ~ trialsanderrors 09:44, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
