Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aftab Ahmed Vohra

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:16, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aftab Ahmed Vohra

Prodded as unverified CV of a CEO, deprodded as appears notable enough [1], but a quick google search turns up a mere 14 distinct hits on his company [2] and 15 hits on the man himself [3] (which expands to 29 if you drop the middle name [4]), so we bring it to AfD for further review. Suggest Delete on grounds of nn. Eusebeus 00:08, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Try searching Aftab Ahmad Vohra Thatcher131 04:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep, bad faith nomination, nominator omits deprod citation of articles showing subject is treated as notable in relevant national press. Nominator shows an unhealthy preoccupation with targeting figures from non-Western cultures for deletion.Monicasdude 00:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

  Comment - this user has posted a "speedy Keep" on similar grounds under every AfD nomination from Eusebus for at least the past week. — AKADriver ☎ 18:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as nn. Only a few very trivial mentions in minor press sources. Most hits on the name are Wikipedia or mirrors. dbtfz^talk 00:51, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Reads like someone's resume, and the parts that are verifiable aren't particularly notable. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 01:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Wikipedia is not a free CV hosting service. There's no assertion that this particular CEO is special. Brian G. Crawford 01:23, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete from this non-western - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 01:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, nothing in article is verified which causes the problems here. Web CVs should be subjected to utmost scrutiny, unfortunately this doesn't stand up right now. Needs the WP:HEY, which in this case would be: If verified as executive leader of a notable company, with additional influential commercial responsibility within Lahore, and article completely stripped of POV, unencylopedic info (member of Gymkhana club?) and edited for standard of English, I'd be happy to reconsider the matter. Deizio 01:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

• Nice effort with the research and cleanup, still not convinced that business in Lahore revolves around him but enough for a Weak keep from me. Deizio 09:30, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

• Speedy delete, fails notability standards, Monicasdude is on a "remove all PROD tags" crusade. User:Zoe|^(talk) 02:00, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:BIO.--Isotope23 02:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn per WP:BIO.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! - review me 02:19, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Hold Another case where it wouldn't kill us to wait a while. CEO of a Pakastani company should be as notable as a CEO of a US company of similar size (relative to the country's economy). Nomination is an example of Systemic bias. Is google really valid for a Pakastani company? I don't know. I would prefer to wait and see if some Pakistani editors can tell us that this is either not verifiable or is notable and help us rewrite.Thatcher131 04:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Lexis/Nexis has 20+ articles in Pakistani news sources in the last two years. I will add some to the article. Thatcher131 04:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Lexis/Nexis has 200+ articles under spelling Aftab Ahmad Vohra with 250 G'hits (vs 40 G'hits for Ahmed) Thatcher131 04:30, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
  • He seems not to be notable as the owner of a chemical business but reasonably notable as VP of the Lahore Chamber of Commerce, he gets a fair amount of news coverage for trying to bring outside businesses and investment to Pakistan. Thatcher131 04:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Keep I wasn't sure at first whether the level of notability I could demonstrate warranted a keep, but based on several new keep votes below, I agree he should be kept and hopefully improved upon by local experts. Thatcher131 15:08, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, nn-bio. --Terence Ong 04:14, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, WP:BIO failed --MaNeMeBasat 05:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per above. SorryGuy 06:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per Thatcher131. Seems notable enough for mine. Capitalistroadster 11:24, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per good faith nomination by the nom. DarthVader 13:28, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Kuzaar 16:21, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Thatcher131. Kimchi.sg | talk 17:46, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Thatcher131. Notability shouldn't be U.S.-centric. Amcfreely 23:59, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Thatcher131. Quite notable. Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 00:58, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

If you know something about the subject could you improve the article any? Thatcher131 01:05, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry I'm an Indian & this is a Pakistani article. I've even heard about this guy but have no concrete info on basis of which I can contribute. --Srikeit^{(talk ¦ ✉)} 09:35, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. He gets eight hits in the Pakistani Daily Times on Google News[5], which, considering that there may well be more hits in Urdu, indicates notability in the Pakistani business world. u p p l a n d 06:33, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
  • P.S. Perhaps it would be useful for the AfD habitués to review the section "Foreign languages and non-Latin scripts" at the Wikipedia:Search engine test page. u p p l a n d 06:40, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Chamber of Commerce guys are normally notable. Plus Thatcher131's done enough looking around to convince me. Hornplease 08:14, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.