Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afro-Brazilian

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep.  Denelson83  07:04, 18 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Afro-Brazilian

Was a redirect to Afro-Latin American and should remain so. Not notable concept, no evidence that people in Brazil refer to themselves and/or blacks with this term SqueakBox 14:31, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

• Keep This is a very valid wikipedia entry. "Afro-Brazilian" appears to be widely accepted and significant cultural concept for Brazil, especially in politics, music, dance, religion. "Afro-Brazilian" brings up over 315,000 hits on google and over 400 hits on Amazon.com. Many of these hits are non-trivial. Examples: there has been an Afro-Brazilian art exhibition at the Guggenheim Museum - see this link [1]; there are academic works using the term such as one on the role of Afro-Brazilians in Brazilian political history - link: [2]; there are workshops on Afro-Brazilian dance such as this one at Stanford University link: [3]; there are serious discussions and news reports on Afro-Brazilian religion: links:[4] [5] Bwithh 15:03, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
• Note: disputes about page content, such as whether an article should be a redirect, do not belong on AFD. Speedy keep as wrong-forum nomination and move discussion to article's talk page. —Wahoofive (talk) 16:04, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

  I have no idea whether you can quote policy to back up your claim that this is not a valid Vfd, though I doubt it, but I am sure that there is no such thing as speedy keep, SqueakBox 16:06, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

  Speedy Keep is in fact a legitimate term (it generally indicates an invalid AFD that should be prematurely ended). However, issues of redirects frequently end up here, so let's settle it rather than moving the debate elsewhere. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 18:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)

• Keep as the afro brazilian people are so great in number of citzens and have a culture that difer from the spanish speaking countries of latin america. I think afro brazilians should have they own article and not make just a part of the afro latin america article. Of course the african brazilians make part of afro latin americans, and should make part of that article, but just a stub , and let a more complex text on his own article. I dont think is a good idea to delete the african brazlian article. and i think the article will be very improved and expanded. user:mateuszica 12 October 2005
• Keep. Nearly 300,000 hits for Afro-Brazilian including references to religion Condomble, literature and culture see [6]. Our article claims that there are up to 60 million people in Brazil who fall into this category. While this could do with a little cleanup and the provision of references, this article is in reasonable shape and in my view has Featured Article potential. Capitalistroadster 23:57, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep, not even the nominator wanted it deleted. btw, I don't think that it it should be redirected. --Apyule 06:24, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep not red. I learned about this term when Olga de Alaketu died, and it seems widespread in Brazil. Xoloz 14:39, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
• Strong Keep, afro-brasileiro (Afro-Brazilian) is a common word used by blacks in Brazil when they don't want to be called negros. PMLF 00:16, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

I am now satisfied that this article should be kept. As I am not an admin I don't want to close it, but can an admin please do so, SqueakBox 16:54, 14 October 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in an undeletion request). No further edits should be made to this page.