Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/African American leftism
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was keep. I could not determine a consensus for a title should the article be moved, so please feel free to discuss on Talk:African American leftism. howcheng {chat} 17:39, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] African American leftism
Subject is not noteworthy in and of itself and material that might come here would be more appropriate in another article like Left-wing politics or some simialr page .TDC 19:02, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. TDC 19:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep yes it is. --Revolución (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. The article makes the claim of notability, and I don't see why it wouldn't be. It's a stub, for sure, and needs expansion, but it's a good subject. rodii 20:58, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --JW1805 (Talk) 21:10, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Keep but find a better name if possible. There's no denying that African-Americans have been a significant bloc within liberal politics. Designation for this ethnic group is not arbitrary, given historical and cultural conditions within the United States. An article identifying these people is a research tool. A corresponding list of African-Americans in conservative politics would also be encyclopedic. Durova 22:44, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's a better name than Black leftism in my opinion because it's less ambiguous about regions. This is about African Americans , however, if I were to call it black leftism it would also have to cover leftism in other parts of the world. Those that oppose this article should put black conservatism up for deletion because black leftism is way more common and deserves an article more. --Revolución (talk) 22:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's more the leftism that's problematic for me. Isn't the corollary to conservatism normally liberalism? Durova 23:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Liberalism is very ambiguous. I think "leftism" is more specific. --Revolución (talk) 00:03, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- I know that liberalism means different things in different parts of the world, but this is an article about African American liberals. Thus using liberalism in the American sense is fine. Move to African American liberalism, and if there isn't a companion article on African American conservatism, make one. "Leftist" is a snarl-term for many in the US. Firebug 04:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Leftist is a serious term for anyone on the left. I oppose a move to African American liberalism for the reason that Angela Davis and others on the list are more to the left than many "liberals". --Revolución (talk) 05:48, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
- I know that liberalism means different things in different parts of the world, but this is an article about African American liberals. Thus using liberalism in the American sense is fine. Move to African American liberalism, and if there isn't a companion article on African American conservatism, make one. "Leftist" is a snarl-term for many in the US. Firebug 04:58, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Liberalism is very ambiguous. I think "leftism" is more specific. --Revolución (talk) 00:03, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's more the leftism that's problematic for me. Isn't the corollary to conservatism normally liberalism? Durova 23:13, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- It's a better name than Black leftism in my opinion because it's less ambiguous about regions. This is about African Americans , however, if I were to call it black leftism it would also have to cover leftism in other parts of the world. Those that oppose this article should put black conservatism up for deletion because black leftism is way more common and deserves an article more. --Revolución (talk) 22:54, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
- Durova/Revolución, the meaning of "liberalism" depends on where you live and whether youre talking about social or economic matters. "Leftist" has connotations of "hard left" for me. Left-wingers/right-wingers would be non-ambiguous for all? Jameswilson 01:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- Sounds fine to me. Durova 03:24, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
