Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/African-American quarterbacks

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete, see consensus at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of African-American quarterbacks. Sr13 05:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of African-American quarterbacks

African-American quarterbacks (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – this article has been speedied as a copyright violation

List of African-American quarterbacks (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) - (View log)

Non-encyclopedic, overly broad, and seems somewhat "unreasonable". We don't need an article entitled Caucasion-American quarterbacks, so why this?

• I am also nominating the following related page for reasons stated above. Additionally, it simply duplicates the list already in the "parent" article:

List of African-American quarterbacks (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Jmfangio| ►Chat  12:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy delete of African-American quarterbacks, No opinion on List of African-American quarterbacks. In the former case, all of the content, except for the list at the bottom, is a copyvio from http://www.blackathlete.net/artman/publish/article_01018.shtml; to remove it would leave only the list at the bottom, which is already at the latter article and belongs at that title, if it belongs on Wikipedia at all.

The copyvio content has also appeared at the latter article, but was removed and replaced and removed again. That article had been turned into a redirect to African American Quarterbacks#History, which does not exist; the African-American quarterbacks article nominated here did not exist at that time, either. I believe the editor's intent was to move the list, and the copyvio content, to African-American quarterbacks, but, as said, without the copyvio there's nothing worth moving.

As to whether the List of African-American quarterbacks is worth keeping on its own, I have no opinion. But the AFD notice has been improperly placed on that article's Talk page instead of the main page, and I will move it momentarily. (And sorry for the super-long comment, but I'm just trying to explain what the heck is up here, even though I'm not 100% sure myself.) Propaniac 13:41, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

AFD notification has been moved to the main page at List of African-American quarterbacks. Propaniac 13:45, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

• Note - I have speedied African-American quarterbacks as it is nothing but a copyvio. I have also removed infringing revisions from List of African-American quarterbacks, so I suppose this AFD should stay open to consider its disposition. I have made the appropriate adjustments to the header of this AFD. --B 16:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete the list without prejudice - since nobody has offered an opinion on what to do with the non-copyvio list, I will. Delete it without prejudice. As it stands right now, the list is useless and does nothing that a category couldn't do. But a well-sourced, well-constructed list of African American quarterbacks (preferably with the inclusion criteria that they were either starters in the pros or All-something in college) could be a good list. --B 19:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
• Improve - could be interesting if constructed better. Abdelkweli 16:03, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete. Why not just Afr.Amer. Footbal players, which although make sense, is still pretty trivial. James Luftan 23:43, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete and preposition As there is no context pretty much and is likely incomplete and unsourced. Would a category fit well though?--JForget 01:45, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.