Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adam Lopez

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The result of the debate was keep. Ingoolemo ^talk 05:05, 2005 Jun 20 (UTC)

[edit] Adam Lopez

Vanity by User:Adam Lopez. Some of the information is disputed as well, see the Talk page. The User is also spreading much of the vanity through various articles. RickK 22:57, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

• Comment. I suggest we revert the article back to the 16:49, 2 Jun 2005 UTC version when it was still a stub, and remind User:Adam Lopez of Wikipedia:Autobiography. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:03, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Concur - as much as I hate self-publicity, [1] does seem to indicate notability, so keep for now - although I'm open to other arguments --Doc (?) 23:09, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, and here is why. I want everyone to open the history log on this article and click on the first few edits. His range was Bb9? One and half to two octaves higher than Minnie and Mariah (the queens of the whistle register). I mean, IF I wanted to do an autobiography, I sure as well am going to add date of birth, and other life crap to make the article at least appear encyclopedic on the outside (vane maybe :-) ). But I sure has hell do NOT need to guess my vocal range, or whatever. The record was a C#8, but he hit E8 (which is higher) on the show? Why wasn't the record for E8 (its just as easy to prove E8 as C#8 if its happening in the same context, no?). I think this is NOT Adam Lopez Costa the singer, but a poser who needs reversion and possible blocking. Read my comments on Talk:Adam Lopez. Antares33712 23:17, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Comment, looking back at whistle register, I remember how the articles talk of the extreme altitude in a C8. Soon after, 152.163.100.7, writes about Artimius Rollins hitting a brief C#8. I removed that, and other info was added about melisma and staccato (both rather separate concepts). Suddenly the info was back with he uses melisma and staccato and a brief C#8. Its as if the person is using the extreme note and pasting a "X does it better". I really believe 152.163.100.7 and User:Adam Lopez may be related and if the article talked about C9, he would have hit E9. See my point? Antares33712 23:27, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Userfy and remove the links in other article. Wikipedia is not the guiness book of world records and this guy den't appear to be notable beyond that.--nixie 01:41, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Delete vanity. JamesBurns 07:53, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Userfy and de-link inbound links, in agreement with nixie and noting doubts mentioned by Antares. Not encyclopedically significant even if verified. Barno 18:38, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• I guess I'm missing something. We do NOT know that this user is THE Adam Lopez, and secondly, why isn't this encyclopedic. As a true fan of the human abilities in the whistle register, I think it is good to know that their is documented evidence of men being able to pitch in those altitudes. That it isn't just a "female club". I won't disagree with verifiability being immportant and vanity being bad, but I worry that Wikipedia is becoming a "if Google doesn't have it, it has no business existing", type of forum. There is a website (I think its on free hosts) that has a RealAudio clip of him pitching the Bb7. I only agree the discrepancy between the text and the Guiness link is BLATANT; however, while he may not be important to the world en mass, he is important to fans of the whistle register (for which there are a few) and is QUITE encyclopedic, if for no other reason that for historical posterity. Females in club do exist from time to time, but he is about the ONLY example of a male in this extreme altitude Antares33712 21:33, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

• Keep, there is a lot of useless crap on here, may as well keep this 205.188.116.135 01:44, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep a few facts need verifying and so on, but I see no reason to delete -- sannse (talk) 10:53, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, not sure about that much range, but as a valid Austrailian pop singer and session vocalist, he is pretty notable 64.12.116.138 03:03, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Keep and Expand This is a biographical piece, so things such as date of birth need to be included here. However, the man is a celebrity and his vocal capabilities are clearly unusual, so I reject the notion that this article is somehow vanity (barring, of course, the possiblity that Adam Lopez himself actually cares enough about wikipedia that he wrote the article himself).

It can't be vanity as I created the article and I do not personally know the guy :-) Antares33712 21:51, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

just checking, is't a decision meant to be made after 5 days of open posting's? Delete or not?

Supposed to be after five days, but may extend it slightly. Runaway delete ones usually are the only ones to end early or at five days. Antares33712 20:41, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

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