Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ace & TJ Show

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-27 07:53Z

[edit] Ace & TJ Show

Ace & TJ Show (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

I'm not quite sure what makes a radio program notable or not, so I don't have any policy to go on here. Truthfully, it looks to me like advertising especially considering phrases like "wildly popular". I'll abstain as I don't know what the official policy on this type of thing is. Brad Beattie (talk) 14:13, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

this is from the talk page:

this seems like an accurate discription of the show, how else would you suggest to fix this problem? Ryn2me 14:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

also 'wildly popular' would be an accurate discription, seeing as they lead the ratings in the markets in which they broadcast Ryn2me

is the advertising tag going to be addressed or not? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ryn2me (talk • contribs).

  • Yep, I just came back to look at the talk page now. Generally, adverbs indicate a non-POV article. "Wildly popular" would be better served by actually stating the specific numbers. I'm going to try and hunt down the notability requirements for a radio show. I'll reply here within 24 hours as to what I've found. --Brad Beattie (talk) 06:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

also...i think you missed a step with nominating the article, you did not notify me like you were supposed to, since i am the creator Ryn2me 14:27, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

i think this is a good quality article that should remain and just should be edited to make it better Ryn2me 18:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

keep Ryn2me 21:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

If this article gets deleted then you should look at deleting all other syndicated radio shows and even look at TV shows because, seeing as how having something that is broadcast across such a large market doesn't make it notable and having formed a nationally recognized charitee, then what will Ryn2me 22:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ace_%26_TJ_Show"

This article had been on the deletion agenda for more than five days...if this problem isnt resolved soon i will send messages to all of the administrators since it isn't being treated fairly and should be removed as an AfD articleRyn2me 02:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 06:48, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep - syndicated radio program. Multiple award nominations (but where are the refs?). It's notable in my book. Chovain 07:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak Delete. I am not convinced on the notability issue as the syndication is, currently, 8 local markets - clearly Ace & TJ are not in the same league as Howard Stern. The article itself is very weak and reads more like advertising copy than a serious enycylopaedic srticle. Hmmm... Eddie.willers 13:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. This article needs fixing, not deletion. -Toptomcat 14:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. I wrote this article as best I could being a listener to the show...I present facts from the show, controversies that have surrounded the show and connections to other articles. I can try to fix it as best I can and, if someone wants to actually edit it like what Wikipedia is meant for, they can do that for. Also, if you want to take a look at other radio show articles, like Bob and Tom, they are not much different from this one. Ryn2me 02:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Doesn't appear to be notable and the total lack of sources means that no notability has been established nor has the show even really been verified. Unless good, reliable third party sources are given that show that this is, in fact, notable then this should go. --The Way 07:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete for failing notability criteris (and possibly WP:V). Article does not cite "multiple third-party reliable sources" indicating its notability or verifying its content. (It also still comes across as self-promotional and filled with cruft e.g. "gags", although this can be cured by editing.) Without external ref's this article should go. Zunaid©Please rate me at Editor Review! 07:31, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

Once again, this article has been on the agenda for more than five days, seven to be exact...making it two weeks, that is very unfair for an article...a decision on the article should be reached within 24 hours or i will write all of the top ranking members of wikipedia Ryn2me 01:29, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.