Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Academies@Englewood

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to Dwight Morrow High School. --VS ^talk 08:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Academies@Englewood

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Does not meet WP:N criteria for notability. There are no major media mentions or notable alumni. Tatonka79 02:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Nomination is not accurate. A news column has been present since last November. -Pete 05:38, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Keep The school has been at the center of a voluntary desegregation effort to attract white students from a largely white district to a school system that had a near complete minority population. The school has received substantial news coverage from the time it was created in 2002 and has continued to receive such coverage, with ample reliable and verifiable sources provided to demonstrate notability. Alansohn 06:49, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —Butseriouslyfolks 08:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep since all high schools are notable and even if they weren't, this already meets WP:ORG and WP:N. Noroton 00:03, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
  • WRONG. NOWHERE on Wikipedia does it say that schools are inherently notable. That is your personal opinion, and one most disagree with.the preceding statement was brought to you by ... TJ Spyke 02:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

1. Shouting is considered rude. 2. I didn't say it wasn't my personal opinion, and I linked to my own mini-essay on the subject, so no disagreement there. But I also said this article meets Wikipedia standards for notability for organizations. If you're going to criticize, at least get my position right. And if you're going to say something that you want to try to persuade others with, make your case. Noroton 20:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Re 2 - You did not state that it *was* your personal opinion, which was part of the problem - it confused me initially until I clicked the link. An often time-poor closing admin reads the comments and they need to be as clear as possible. Orderinchaos 05:21, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete or merge with Dwight Morrow High School (since this is part of the school, or at least is located within it) and is not notable by itself. TJ Spyke 02:23, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete or merge per TJ Spyke - clearly not notable by itself, and the only relevant independent sources address the issues it creates for DMHS. (For the record, I dislike blanket statements about notability - most high schools are notable, but some fail the test. most primary schools are not notable, but some clearly pass it. etc.) Orderinchaos 05:19, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per the above. School fails to assert notability that would provide grounds for its inclusion. Eusebeus 22:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
• Keep because of the desegregation controversy. I thing merge with the Dwight Morrow article might be a possibility, because the two are closely linked. That'll be an editing decision. DGG 01:49, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 20:29, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qst 15:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

• weak keep or merge to DMHS We have a major, notable controversy associated with the school that has had a lot of press coverage. however, Orderinchaos is correct that there has been little coverage focusing on Englewood. JoshuaZ 16:15, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.