Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AXA (band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the nomination was keep. (ESkog)^(Talk) 02:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AXA (band)

This article along with Adisa Cizmic and Haris Cizmic have been subject to sockpuppetry as shown at Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Djedamrazuk. Therefore I am listing the three of them at this time. Haris Cizmic has already been through Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Haris Cizmic which I closed as KEEP despite the large amount of sockpuppets. This was due to the fact that the nominator had removed the AfD tag, most of the delete comments were made prior to the articles clean up and a review of the article lead me to believe that there was enough of a claim of notability. Therefore, I am listing all three articles with no opinion to keep or delete. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 14:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

• I am aware that djedamrazuk (a 22 yr old kid - a close relative to me, who wanted to help me get my pages up and kinda screwed it all) did some bad things here. However, I have tried to clean the mess up, DarkAudit was of big help and I thought it was all settled. I really don't see the reason to remove the pages now. They are not violating wikipedia rules & regulations and everybody can communicate to me directly, as the real author of all the artwork posted. But, if you decide to remove my pages - I guess there's nothing i can do about it really. --Hariscizmic 15:07, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • In the light of everything that happened, i sincerely apologize but I don't think there was any sockpuppetry on AXA (band) page or Adisa Cizmic page. All the discussion mentioned was directly connected to Haris Cizmic profile page- which, in case of punishment, shoud be the only one removed. I do believe my young relative, that he deleted those AfD tags not knowing "what's that for". For everything else, I have already apologized. --Hariscizmic 15:36, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep A good-faith effort was made to fix the Haris Cizmic page. The pages should stand on their merit alone, not because of the behavior of a few. Once the hubbub died down, the process went fairly smoothly (pretty much after I commented 'stop the sockpuppetry and put that effort into fixing the page.'). All three are notable. I nominated the band for AfD as NN, but quickly rescinded after further research. The articles as they stand now meet Wikipedia standards. If the editors do not, sanction them instead. --DarkAudit 15:40, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Haris Cizmic for non-notability. It looks like an ad for a web designer. Neutral on the other two (AXA (band) and Adisa Cizmic) as notability is claimed and may well have been met. Ifnord 16:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment from the comments on the talk pages regarding the renominations, it would appear that this is at the edge of being a bad-faith nomination in retribution for the sockpuppetry involved in the Haris Cizmic discussion. I originally nominated the page, and withdrew it on the merits of the effort to fix the page. Editors other than the sockpuppets worked on getting the page up to standards. Why should they be punished? Is it Wikipedia policy to delete pages merely on the basis of sockpuppets, in spite of the merits of the page on it's own or the efforts of other editors on that page? --DarkAudit 16:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy delete everything per WP:BAND and WP:SOCK. NB: The only notable AXA, it seems, is a French-based business company. --Slgr@ndson (page - messages - contribs) 16:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment The band has an entry on Allmusic, and I've already nominated and withdrawn a NN nomination. Not Speedy candidates. --DarkAudit 17:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The band is notable enough for me (two albums released, and according to Adisa Cizmic a half-hour documentary on "TV Poland"), and by extension so are its leading members, although the Cizmic articles both need some cleanup. --Huon 18:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
• Strong keep Music is verified on several reliable sources like allmusic.com and mp3.com, won an award at an international music festival, and had a song on a movie. Royalbroil 13:16, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - notable. --Aguerriero (talk) 22:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.