Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A-macron

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The result of the debate was no consensus; thus, the article is kept. —Korath (Talk) 01:59, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] A-macron

No potential to become encyclopedic. Ā is not an independently collated letter like Å, it's simply an ordinary A with a diacritic. No other vowel-macron combination has its own article, and the general topic of vowels with macrons is covered much better under Macron. Jpatokal 08:56, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)

To follow up: Å is interesting because it's not a mere diacritic (the ring cannot be applied to any other letter), the pronounciation (long O) is not obvious, it's the symbol of the angstrom and the Swedish/Finnish alphabets consider it a unique letter. I'll admit to not being aware that Latvian also considers Ā a unique letter — but is this factoid enough for an article? Jpatokal 03:13, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Delete, duplicate/redundant article. Megan1967 09:35, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete outright? Not even redirect to Macron? And would you support deleting Å? -- Curps 10:33, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Wiktionary has articles for individual letters, and would probably be happy to have Wiktionary:Ā, to go along with Wiktionary:Å and all of the other articles in Wiktionary:Category:Latin letters. Redirect to Macron, and carefully inspect all of the other hyperlinks in Template:Latin alphabet for dictionary-definition magnets. Uncle G 12:31, 2005 Mar 9 (UTC)
• Delete, not an article. Wyss 01:23, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete outright? Not even redirect to Macron? And would you support deleting Å? -- Curps 10:33, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, it's a separate letter in the Latvian alphabet, and it's independently collated after A and before B. See [1] and [2], and also see [3] which shows baznīca before bārda. Other macron letters are also used in Latvian: E, I, U. It belongs in Category:Uncommon Latin letters. -- Curps 09:53, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Comment And why would collation even matter? After all ß is collated as "ss", yet we have a fine article for it. There's probably an encyclopedic article that can be written for every letter in Unicode's Latin Extended-A subset. -- Curps 10:33, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. ß has an interesting article because it has an interesting history, because its use was recently altered by the German spelling reform of 1996 and because it's one of very few letters in a Roman alphabet that has only a lowercase version, no uppercase version. Ā, on the other hand, is just A with a long mark, which indicates a long A. Nonnotable. --Angr 19:54, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete outright? Not even redirect to Macron? And would you support deleting Å? -- Curps 01:49, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep for reasons outlined by User:Curps. Psychonaut 02:20, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. How on Earth is this not encyclopedic? - David Gerard 00:43, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with macron. dab (ᛏ) 09:49, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. ElBenevolente 04:41, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to macron. The bulk of this article describes the macron in general (its use in romanized Japanese, for example, is not limited to A). — Gwalla | Talk 08:26, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Keep As my predecessors have so aptly demonstrated... whoknew?

Above user has nine edits, all to VfD pages. Rhobite 02:41, Mar 21, 2005 (UTC)

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