Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3NRG

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. --Coredesat 02:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 3NRG

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No notability, no verification. All I get out of this is that there is a radio station named 3NRG that gives local news and community info to the public. Fails WP:LOCAL. Diez2 16:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, W.marsh 00:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Do Australian call-signs begin with 3? At the very least, this article should be moved to its actual call sing, not its brand-name. But as it stands right now, delete per nom. Argyriou (talk) 00:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Comment - yes, they do. Each state has a different number, IIRC. Grutness...wha? 00:57, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Ok - so they all technically start with VL, so the real call sign would be VL3NRG, but nobody in Australia uses the VL. Thus I withdraw my remark about the call sign. But it's still not enough to keep. Argyriou (talk) 01:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment This may mean something, or not. Xiner (talk, email) 01:39, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - no news articles, almost no related google hits and nothing in the article that asserts notability. Just another local radio station with a small group of sponsors, minimal equipment and no significant impact on the world - Peripitus (Talk) 01:40, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Edeans 02:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete no references.-MsHyde 03:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Not relevant, as-well as per Here.TellyaddictEditor review! 16:13, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete There is nothing to speak of this topic (not notable)- and anyone who actually researches the topic will not be able to get the information they need in the few sentences this topic gives.Daniel()Folsom T|C|U 20:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Longhair\talk 22:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep One of three community radio stations in the Sunbury area of Melbourne's north-western suburbs, but I can kind of understand those who see it's notability as questionable. Certainly not unverifiable: I'll try and rework the article from the following references: the station website, a speech by the area's MP, the Australian Broadcasting Authority announcement and a Hansard from the Australian Parliament. --Canley 02:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • delete per nomOo7565 04:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. Once the resources identified by Canley have all been added, notability should be established. --Eastmain 05:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Reading the sources through though. The hansard entry is the text of the local MP's speach about the 2004 positive changes at the radio station, the ABA's release is just an announcement of awarding them a broadcast licence and the speech reported is just a duplicate, on the speaking MP's website, of the same speech given in parliment - exactly what is expected of a local MP to promote local issues. Apart from this 3NRG seems to have made no impact and have generated no news or other significant interest. - Peripitus (Talk) 07:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Community radio is small enough in Australia that any community radio station which has independant reliably sourced coverage is notable. It is a very recent article which needs some time for development - rushing in with a deletion at this stage is unwarranted. Sources exist but need to be researched for incorporation into text.Garrie 10:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Response: That's like saying in a small enough town, every person is notable Daniel()Folsom T|C|U 04:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Other than the unhelpful "fails WP:LOCAL", is there a notability guideline for radio stations? I know there was a Wikipedia:Notability (TV and radio stations) which is now inactive, and was very US-specific. I'm not sure that I agree that "notability = newsworthy", but the station obviously has received coverage in The Sunbury Leader and The Sunbury Telegraph[1]. --Canley 01:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Response: A)I'm replying from the editing view - so this is just speculation - but those newspapers may not be notable themselves, B) If only one of the newspapers is notable then the article still fails notability since notability is "multiple" notable sources.Daniel()Folsom T|C|U 04:30, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • No, notability is being the subject of multiple reliable sources, not multiple notable sources. The Sunbury newspapers have a circulation of about 47,000 each, but even if that's not considered notable (and once again, we don't have a guideline on this), they're published by News Limited and John Fairfax Holdings respectively - so as reliable as the Herald Sun and The Age for sources. --Canley 04:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • weak delete the rules just don't work well in dealing with very different sized places: the two LI newspapers that were (probably correctly) deleted have a larger circulation than any small town paper, and I would certainly vote to keep an article on the only paper in even a very small town. But in any case the requirements for N as a source are less than N as an article, and here the two papers are actually independent, for that is not always the case.. But we are discussing the radio station, and the problem is that most radio station stubs basically give only directory information, and never develop further. So if its really a stub, and you do intend to add more & think you can find it & source it, come back when you have. DGG 05:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete as nn. --MaNeMeBasat 14:23, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep, public broadcaster - seems notable enough for me. Lankiveil 04:13, 11 February 2007

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  • Delete - I see nothing to establish notability. --JerryOrr 01:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.