Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2018 FIFA World Cup

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Rename to 2018 FIFA World Cup bid for now. Please wait for 11 years to come and we will end up returning to its initial title. @pple complain 16:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

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I am nominating this page per WP:CRYSTAL it doesn't tell you anything, the bidding for where it will take place doesn't start until 2010, and its just an essay on what stadiums "could" be used, if that country is chosen. The sunder king 21:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep 2018 will be the first time that the rotation system is not used, which makes it fairly notable. Also, a lot of countries are already considering bids. GlassCobra 22:24, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Because the lobbying's already underway and will only intensify, this is already a valid topic for an article — iridescent (talk to me!) 22:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per GlassCobra and lots of details have been sourced as well so it should pass.--JForget 23:50, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Avala 00:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete wikipedia is not a chrystal ball.--SefringleTalk 03:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This article is likely about to expand rapidly. See iridescent's comments. Pursey Talk | Contribs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pursey (talk • contribs) 04:04, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 04:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per WP:NOT#CBALL. If kept, this article should be renamed to something like Countries to host 2018 FIFA World Cup. The only confirmed statement about 2018 FIFA World Cup is the first paragraph. Carlosguitar 05:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 07:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Enough verifiable information available on the bidding process and countries considering bidding. Davewild 08:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep WP:NOT#CBALL says Individual scheduled or expected future events should only be included if the event is notable and almost certain to take place. If preparation for the event is not already in progress, speculation about it must be well documented. - this event is clearly notable and is clearly almost certain to take place. And speculation about it (i.e. about who will host it) is clearly well documented per all the references. ChrisTheDude 08:09, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
But how do you know if we will not have World War III? 1942 and 1946 World Cups did not happen because World War II. Sincerely, I hope that World War does not happen, but in 11 years a lot of thing may happen. Carlosguitar 20:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
I said almost certain to happen, not will absolutely definitely occur, and "almost certain to happen" is all the crystal ball policy requires.... ChrisTheDude 20:59, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • KEEP' There is a process in place, and the information is verifiable, cited and sourced. This is an event that is scheduled, if anything it warrants further attention for other nations. Londo06 08:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • DELETE *voice in background* WHAT IN THE FUCK! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.53.32 (talk) 08:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Well sourced article. Number 57 08:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Rename - Let's rename it 2018 FIFA World Cup bid or some such. SolidPlaid 10:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Rename - The information is speculative, but well-founded. However, there is no information in there about the 2018 World Cup itself, just the countries that may bid to host it. I saw we move this to 2018 FIFA World Cup bids or something similar, then create a more specific 2018 FIFA World Cup article later. - PeeJay 11:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as is. Similar articles have been created in the past about definite future events, without being challenged as this one has been. It states clearly that it is a future event and that there will be certain speculation of a non-damaging nature. Why rename, when the renamed article ("bids") will certainly suffer after the competition venue is announced (bids will be over, what do you do, rename it back? Waste of energy). Ref (chew)(do) 12:03, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Certainly not! After the competition venue is announced, the "bids" article would provide a detailed overview of the bidding process. - PeeJay 12:39, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Exactly - All the information on the Bid process will not be allowed in the eventual enormous Cup article. Moving it now will create a redirect that will do its thing for 11 years, then be converted into the Cup article. SolidPlaid 11:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • KEEP Keep as is. Article itself states that these are the options, detailing with cited sources. CorleoneSerpicoMontana 12:23, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • KEEP No need for a name change. Everyone is aware that time is linear. Most people I'm assuming know that this event is yet to happen, however there is a need for FIFA to plan ahead, these details being sourced within this article. KEEP, NO RENAME. Alexsanderson83 13:20, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
This article does not talk about FIFA World Cup only about bids interests. There is no way to keep with this title. Carlosguitar 20:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Bunch of pratts, all of you. The sunder king 15:11, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
KEEP Pretty clear that it should remain in place and this thread be closed. Londo06 17:03, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
You already did vote. Carlosguitar 20:53, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete or alternatively Rewrite it, it's full of pictures and heavy speculation as it is now. --Angelo 21:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep as is. This article contains facts about who has said they will bid, etc. and is therefore not pure crystal ball material, but information about an event which is being planned for. Robotforaday 00:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

already voted in favour of KEEPING United States Senate elections, 2012 I would recommend looking at this as a point of reference. The 2018 World Cup will happen, it will be held in a country or countries, it will be held at stadiums, why would anyone wish to delete an article about a planned tournament. Londo06 10:24, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Strong keep, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, but you don't need a crystal ball to know that there'll be a football World Cup in 2018. This sourced article has all the relevant information that exists about the tournament, and more will be added, there is no reason whatsoever to delete this. World Cups are notable and the current state of the article is interesting to anyone interested in the process leading up to a World Cup. 96T 21:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, I do strongly vote for keeping this article. I cannot see any reason why we are debating on this issue. It should be an obvious decision, just keep it. - Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 07:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
You are facists all of you. Its a rigged vote, its rigged all over. If that had been anyone else it would have been deleted. The sunder king 08:36, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Its a not a PA, because I am commenting on the actions not the peoples. Everything I nominate for deletion "vote to keep" anything I nominate for RFA "Oppose Oppose", and the opposite happens when admins do that. The sunder king 09:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
King, I don't know you and even didn't know that you nominated this article for deletion. I wrote what I felt and didn't have any intention to hurt you. -- Niaz(Talk • Contribs) 10:38, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
And if you meant "fascists", how is that not a personal attack? It was intended that way, I think. Wikipedia is not about winning things, such as deletions or reversions - I have been on the wrong side of the vote many times, and my good faith reversions have sometimes been put back to the incorrect versions when I know full well that I was right all along. You just have to move on to the next item. Ref (chew)(do) 15:09, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.