Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Republican National Convention

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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 23:54, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 2008 Republican National Convention

For the parallel VFD discussion of 2008 Democratic National Convention, see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/2008 Democratic National Convention.

Future event and opinion Alabamaboy 01:29, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

  • ((Keep))It will be an increasingly useful page as time goes on and events become clearer. It will increase participation in Wikipedia and lead to enhanced production of other articles as their need becomes apparent.User:Zulitz/Zulitiz 21:38, 2 June 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, unless you somehow know that the convention will not occur as planned. -- BD2412 talk 02:24, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)
    • Ah, but are you certain it will occur as planned? ;-) AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 02:30, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. In its current form, the entire article is speculation, and is not even about the convention but about possible candidates fielded by the GOP for the election. I'd consider changing my vote if the article is rewritten to include verifiable facts about the planning of the convention, but there's not much to say about it. AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 02:30, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • Merge for the reasons stated by Android at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/2008 Democratic National Convention. And keep out the speculation. DS1953 02:59, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, so details as they come out can be put onto the page, instead of the page continuing to come up for a VfD as the page is re-created but with New Detail X added. Almafeta 04:05, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Not a crystall ball. It's way too far out to be considering this. How about we let the USA get through the 2006 election first? --Xcali 06:07, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep and cleanup. This ardent Democrat notes that political conventions are given examples of exceptions to crystal ball policy. This important, certain future event is already being discussed, and discussion will not abate. Xoloz 06:30, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Speculative content diminishes the credibility of Wikipedia because it is opinion and conjecture rather than fact-based. Without facts, POV inherently becomes a problem. Tobycat 06:49, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, political conventions are generally excepted from the rule, but there is nothing in this article that is not either pure speculation or completely irrelavent. --bainer (talk) 08:54, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete as crystal ball article. Jamyskis 11:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep but Add Stub+Sub-Catagories with an attention or clean. For example,I'm sure the RNC knows where the convention is scheduled - that sort of housekeeping is usually part of the previous national convention backroom deal making.Fabartus 14:03, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep- this is a scheduled event that is (highly) prominent. However, propose adding {{cleanup}} and make it more encyclopedic. Flcelloguy 17:10, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete, speculation. RickK 19:16, Jun 2, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete all crystal ball articles. This convention will only occur if the party in power does not criminalize the Democratic Party, so I wouldn't bet on it. Geogre 19:20, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
    • Oh, I disagree. They'll still keep the Dems around to maintain the illusion of democracy. -- BD2412 talk 21:08, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)
  • Delete. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. --Carnildo 21:26, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Article speaks for itself. Come back when you have actual information. — Phil Welch 23:27, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep. I suspect there is a process for selecting a host city plus a process for electing delegates which is verifiable now. Capitalistroadster 01:16, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete but restart later. Again, although there will be a convention, there is no information at this time about the 2008 RNC; it is too early, we don't know the speakers, the venue or city. I am a Democrat and although there are rumors and preparations about certain candidates, I believe it is inappropriate to write a page for a nominating convention when there are no candidates. Plus, it is too early to write a page this early anyway and the current page appears to be uncited speculation (though well-intentioned) like the 2012 election page. I recommend this page be restarted from scratch in the future (say, after the 2006 midterms) after we have more info and I am open to compromise. --Blue387 08:19, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, I think that this article should stay provided people are warned that the content is about predicted/ scheduled future events are therefore speculative. I intend to create Template:Future for this purpose, this could work in much the same way as Template:Current John Cross 16:04, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • As I wrote on the parallel VFD discussion, completely rewrite this article, similar to the first version of Super Bowl XLIV [1]. We know that the event will occur in Aug 2008, thus the Crystal Ball rule should allow this. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 16:17, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, I agree with Zzyzx11, the article should be rewritten in that style. Falphin 21:31, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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