Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2008 Florida Power blackout

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[edit] 2008 Florida Power blackout

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Does not seem especially notable. Lasted under 4 hours, with fairly minimal disruptions (no deaths, fires, lootings). At worst, planes were "backed up" for a little while. Made the local news for a day, as one might expect, but no lasting notability. (As WP:N says - "it takes more than just a short burst of news reports about a single event or topic to constitute evidence of sufficient notability".) It hit 2.5 million people, true, but hey, South Florida's a densely populated place. Baghdad's an even bigger market, and the power's out there all the time, but we don't exactly see a glut of articles on power outages there. Biruitorul Talk 23:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

  • Merge with Florida Power & Light. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 23:48, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 23:49, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, press coverage indicates notability. I tire of seeing the logic that things are not notable because they fail to meet a death and destruction quota. If people are paying attention to this in significant numbers and to a significant degree, it warrants an article regardless of the absence of a death toll or some kind of mayhem. Everyking (talk) 07:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
    • What kind of coverage? Are you talking about news coverage? There's nothing wrong with citing the news, but I think this one leans a little to much towards Wikipedia is not Wikinews. I'm not saying to delete this completely, I just don't think it warrants its own article; it would find itself right at home as a section in Florida Power & Light. GO-PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 14:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Keep, these types of blackouts are talked about for years. like that one in new york.Myheartinchile (talk) 22:32, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Delete NewYork is different. The blackouts their shutdown the entire subway system, causing many to have to travel by foot due to over crowded buses. South Florida is not heavily dependent on public transit. Media coverage is not a direct qualifier of notability. --Samuel Pepys (talk) 22:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Power outages are rarely notable. They're sensational for a day or two, and then people forget. Pburka (talk) 23:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge per GO-PCHS-NJROTC. M1ss1ontomars2k4 (talk) 04:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - This power outage affected a major tourist attraction and two major airports, along with 2.5 million other people. Even though the outage only lasted 3.5 hours, it may have cost the power company millions of dollars in lost revenue, the same for Disney World and the two airports. Honestly, if millions of dollars are lost in the economy in the already horrible economy, I think this meets WP:N.--DA PIE EATER (talk) 22:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Is that a delete or keep argument? Losing millions of dollars is hardly notable. If that were the case we'd need an article for every time the DJIA dropped a hundred points. That's billions of dollars lost from the economy and it happens nearly weekly. Pburka (talk) 12:30, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I made a typo. Its a keep arguement. Sorry. DA PIE EATER (talk) 22:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:34, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. Seems to smack of recentism, and appears to fail WP:NOT#NEWS --ColorOfSuffering (talk) 22:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete - Samuel Pepys and ColorOfSuffering sum it up. Soxred 93 23:18, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Merge per GO-PCHS-NJROTC. I'm an Editorofthewiki[citation needed] 23:24, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete, this is not a newspaper. There was no lasting, permanent or significant damage or repercussions from this event. Corvus cornixtalk 23:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete or at very best Merge to somewhere. Power outage? IN THE NEWS? Clearly news coverage alone is a reason to keep an article - let us make this article a poster boy of that movement. ...Forgettable local news is still forgettable local news even if it happened to affect a few million people. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 00:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Under what circumstances would you deem this subject notable? If it caused a riot, would that suffice? What if the riot was fairly forgettable, as riots go? Everyking (talk) 10:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
  • Delete. A clear-cut case for WP:NOT#NEWS. If this had happened in, say, Poland in the late 1970s (I was living there at the time and there were major outages almost daily) would we condider having an article about it? Of course not, so let's apply the same standards to Florida in 2008. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Well, as one of only three keep voters in this discussion so far, I can tell you that I am completely in favor of having articles on any blackouts anywhere in the world that got significant press coverage. Everyking (talk) 10:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)