Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2007 French Alps coach crash

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sr13 23:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2007 French Alps coach crash

I still believe this to truly fail Wikipedia:Notability. This event has demonstrated no lasting notability whatsoever; WP:NN clearly states (Emphasis mine) "Notability is not temporary [...] In particular, a short burst of present news coverage about a topic does not necessarily constitute objective evidence of long-term notability." Further, it is quite clear that this incident without a death toll is not half as notable as the vast majority of cases listed on List of road accidents, and should probably not even be listed there. Finally, the article fails the "Featured artcle litmus test": it would be absolutely impossible, now or ever, to create a Featured Article on this topic.

  • Delete as nominator Circeus 17:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I was hopeful I could find enough sources even on this, but I couldn't. Which in itslef demonstrates a lack of notability. Blood Red Sandman (Talk) (Contribs) 17:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Do you know if it can be transwikied to Wikinews? They don't seem to have anything about it, and it would be a shame if your work were lost. Circeus 18:09, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment Transwiki to Wikinews is not possible due to license incompatibility (yes, despite being a Wikimedia Foundation project). --Dhartung | Talk 20:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete. A bus crashed into a rock. Wow. No one died, no one notable was involved, and this was in no way different than the plethora of automobile accidents that happen worldwide on a daily basis. As predicted before, once the initial headlines wear away people are left going "The what what crash?" This is a news article, not an encyclopedia entry. ɑʀкʏɑɴ • (talk) 19:57, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Please don't be sarcastic. Deleting current/recent events has always been particularly difficult. Circeus 20:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • It wasn't directed at anyone, just an expression of frustration that this has to go through two nominations. I'm also having a bit of a long and drawn out day and apologize if I came across poorly. ɑʀкʏɑɴ • (talk) 20:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, seems rather insignificant even in light of the bus plunge phenomenon. --Dhartung | Talk 20:15, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • keep wikipedia is not a paper encyclopedia. It seems like a pretty well sourced article, suprisingly.--SefringleTalk 20:54, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
    • Whether or not the article is "good" or "sourced" is completely besides the point, which is whether the article topic is notable, which I believe it is clearly not. Circeus 21:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete sorry this is absolutely nn.--JForget 23:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm glad nobody was killed. However, if we were to list every school bus crash in history as a separate article, it would be a major problem. A lot of people have done sourcing and contributing, but I can't see what makes this accident any more notable than any other motor vehicle accident. Mandsford 23:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete One person was seriously injured. Wikipedia does not need to cover everything that generates a few news stories. ObiterDicta ( pleadings • errata • appeals ) 01:24, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Wikipedia is not a newspaper, and this is a relatively trivial crash. Resolute 04:18, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete unfortunately road accidents happen all the time, often make news which could be widespread depending on who is aboard. This crash is little different than any run-of-the-mill accident and is therefore nn. Carlossuarez46 18:35, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of France-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 12:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Over one million people a year are killed in vehicle accidents worldwide, and each such fatality is covered in the newspapers, and the vast majority of them fail WP:NOT#NEWS. Even more of a failure of that policy is an accident where no one was killed. Scary for the passengers, and for their friends and families, but not encyclopedic. Wikipedia is not a compendium of everything that goes bump in the Alps. Edison 19:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.