Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2006 Israel-Hamas crisis

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to 2006 Gaza conflict. There are already two other articles dealing with the same subject. POV concerns should be dealt with in the respective talk pages, not by creating new articles. --Ezeu 09:57, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2006 Israel-Hamas crisis

This new article is of the same subject as Operation Summer Rains. The creator (User:CltFn) chose to write a new article instead of editing the current one for some reason, a propose merge has been made as well, although IMO all the information is already in the article. TheYmode 14:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete or Redirect per nom. BhaiSaab talk 19:18, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. ~Rangeley (talk) 03:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep This article is not the same as Operation Summer Rains as this crisis began June 25 while Operation Summer Rains began on June 28 so we are not talking about the same thing. If anything both articles should be merged into a new one that encompasses both the kidnapping of the 25th and the Operation Summer Rains.--CltFn 03:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Wrong. The kidnapping and the other events are in the Operation Summer Rains article already in details, plus the kidnapping is also described in Gilad Shalit. If you have anything to add to these articles please do, if you think the article should be renamed then propose it in the talk page, don't simply write anther one. --TheYmode 05:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
I agree with CltFn. "The kidnapping and the other events are in the Operation Summer Rains article already in details"!! so what ?! It should move to the current article which has a more appropriate title. --Gorbeh12:35, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
It is not more appropriate title. Israel Hamas crisis is not limited to 2006 and even in 2006 there are other events, which you probably prefer not to note. -- tasc wordsdeeds 14:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Operation Summer Rains -- GWO
  • Keep and redirect Operation Summer Rains to 2006 Israel-Hamas crisis. --Gorbeh12:28, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. The title "Operation Summer Rains" is plain POV for such purpose.--Sinooher13:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
    • I say again, if you think the article (Operation Summer Rains) should be renamed then propose it in the talk page, you don't write anther one. --TheYmode 18:07, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: How about putting any non-duplicative information from this article into Operation Summer Rains and then renaming that one "2006 Gaza crisis"? You can't get much more neutral than that, and the events really involve more than just Israel and Hamas. 6SJ7 13:52, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong delete per nom. -- tasc wordsdeeds 14:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect to Operation Summer Rains since this seems to be the official name of the operation, plus it's POV to refer to this as a "crisis" AND at this early stage we do not know yet whether or not it will be confined to Israel-Hamas. Obviously if any notable information sneaks into this article before a redirect is made which isn't in the original, it should be merged accordingly. 23skidoo 16:53, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge somewhere with a more comprehensive title. — RJH (talk) 18:16, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Operation Summer Rains would be POV. IT would be less POV if we knew what Hamas called the operation, since that is what precipitated the current crisis. However, the Hamas name would still be POV as a name for the entire affair. So perhaps this should be called the Gilad Shalit affair. 132.205.44.127 00:45, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong delete --Spoil29 08:57, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, but do NOT redirect to Operation Summer Rains, as that would be only for the Israeli part of the operation. ♠ SG →Talk 11:42, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete--Elatanatari 16:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as a fork/duplicate content. The article "Operation Summer Rains" should probably be moved to a name that is less propagandist (like "2006 Israel-Hamas conflict"), but that's an issue of renaming and this AFD is an issue of duplicated content. --Cyde↔Weys 13:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge Only if name "Operation Summer Rains" is changed into 2006 Israel-Hamas conflict. It is not so much a problem with propaganda as one of POV: I doubt that Hamas calls this "Operation Summer Rains".--Cerejota 16:21, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge and NPOV the name, something like 2006 Gaza conflict. —Nightstallion (?) 16:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as a POV fork. This is not an endorsement of the name "Operation Summer Rains" as the name of the main article for this conflict. However, the creation of POV forks is not productive toward proposing a move and achieving consensus. There's no useful information there now that doesn't exist in a more neutral and better cited form elsewhere. If Operation Summer Rains is moved to a new title, "Operation Summer Rains" should be a redirect with potential to become a daughter article. savidan(talk) (e@) 20:07, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - per nom, redundant information, vague name, this isnt the first conflict in Gaza this year, nor if this ends soon will probably be the last. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 20:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect to 2006 Gaza conflict. Cattus 18:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge and redirect to 2006 Gaza conflict.--TheFEARgod 01:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect - unilateral action by user, creating new article instead of debating a name change on the original. If the user wants a name change, let him discuss it on the original page. --Joffeloff 06:23, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.