Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2005 Oricon Top 100 Singles

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Ichiro 23:38, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 Oricon Top 100 Singles

There are many music charts on Wikipedia. This is totally unencyclopedic. Wikipedia is not some place to look at a radio station's music charts. This should be deleted. Terence Ong ^Talk 08:06, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, this is clearly magazine material. Delete spam. -MegamanZero|Talk 08:54, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment: What about all the other similar ones? 2004 Oricon Top 100 Singles, 2003 Oricon Top 100 Singles, 2005 Oricon Top 20 Albums -- Mikeblas 10:58, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
  • I will find time to nominate all these for AFD. --Terence Ong ^Talk 11:10, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
    • OK. Here are some others you might review: KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1980,

KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1981, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1982, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1983, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1984, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1985, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1986, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1987, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1988, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1989, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1990, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1991, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1992, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1993, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1994, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1995, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1996, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1997, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1998, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 1999, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 2000, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 2001, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 2002, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 2003, KROQ Top 106.7 Countdown of 2004. -- Mikeblas 11:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete all as unencyclopedic. -- Kjkolb 12:11, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all as per above. Sliggy 15:20, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Withdrawn in light of Kappa's comments. I missed the significance of the Oricon chart; my error. No vote. Sliggy 21:05, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

• Delete this nominated article, and delete all those listed by Mikeblas above, as unencyclopedic, for reasons I've argued on deletion pages before. Barno 16:35, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep like List of number-one hits (United States), helps wikipedia users find out what bands and songs were popular in Japan in 2005. Kappa 18:25, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
  • Also, why are Japan's main music charts being compared with those of some random radio station in the US? Kappa 18:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
    • Because it's a convenient way to explore what topics are acceptable and which aren't. KROQ is an influential station and an industry pioneer, BTW. -- Mikeblas 19:53, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
      • I don't see how it's convenient to compare a country of 100 million people to a radio station with maybe 1 million listeners. In fact it seems highly misleading. Kappa 19:58, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
        • It's the topics that are being compared; nobody is comparing the country to the radio station. -- Mikeblas 20:01, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
          • Let me reprase then: It's highly misleading to compare record sales in a large country with listener votes to a moderately-sized radio station. Kappa 20:09, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
            • Sorry, I'm not trying to mislead anyone. Did I do something that suggests I'm so deceitful or biased? I'm just pointing out similar topics -- countdown lists. If we want to establish a guideline, then maybe we'll find that guideline will include the scope of the countdown lists as a way to discern which should go and which should stay. -- Mikeblas 00:24, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
• Comment. I understand that there has been some concern that lists such as this are copyright problems. Does anyone know anything more about this? Jkelly 18:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Kappa —Wahoofive (talk) 00:03, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep all Oricon charts. End the bias. -- JJay 00:18, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Kappa, as much as I dislike music charts in general. However the code really needs to be changed to something much simpler and easier to edit, either just a list, like those KROQ articles or a more clean table using class="wikitable" (see usage example at Pieces of You, scroll down). Can I go ahead and do this to the Oricon articles or should I wait until the AfD is over? --Qirex 03:56, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and cleaned 'em up. -- Jonel | Speak 22:43, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

• Very strong keep - This is the equivalent of the American Billboard Charts in Japan. There is a widening American audience for Japanese pop music, much of which is obtained here by importing the CDs, CD-R and mp3 trading, etc., and many of the artists that make this chart are notable enough to be listed on Wikipedia. --CJ Marsicano 07:42, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
• Delete all chart lists. Uncencyclopedic. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Let's not turn Wikipedia into a database hoster. JoaoRicardo^talk 20:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
• Very strong keep. Japanese singles and albums chart information is obtained from this chart. The site is extremely notable (Alexa ranking of 2,286). It is similar to deleting the Rolling Stone magazine lists. -- ReyBrujo 20:13, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
• KEEP. This page is a good resource for music fans. It's an organized list and is accurate. This is one of the few English sites that houses all of this data.--Stzr3 20:39, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. This is one of the few place with accurate sales figures and there are a lot of anonymous users changing figures back and forth. KittenKlub 23:44, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
• STRONG KEEP. If we kill off this, we may as well start hacking at the Billboard charts listed. As mentioned above, JPop, Shibuya-kei and such are becoming more and more popular in the US and other English speaking nations, and this is one indicator of that popularity.--Mitsukai 16:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.