Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1968 in France

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The result of the debate was keep. (In the end the debate was about whether to merge or to keep, the keepers are in the majority) Sjakkalle 12:45, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 1968 in France

• Delete Merge with 1968 and delete - No content save a single vague reference to a student protest. - Tεxτurε 14:51, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Stubs, especially stubs for "Events in (Year) in (Place)" take time to develop. I think France is more than large enough to have plenty of notable events in 1968 to fill a page. --Unfocused 15:26, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Change vote to Redirect. I don't know if it's more appropriate to redirect to the comprehensive and excellent History of France, or simply redirect to 1968. My slight preference is to redirect to 1968 so that browsers who type "2004 in France" can type the same for different years, and get coverage for the year where a "#### in France" article doesn't exist, yet still get French information for those years where there is content. Merge with 1968 and delete doesn't cover that as gracefully. Redirect to May 1968, suggested below, implies that only one event took place that year in France. --Unfocused 19:09, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

• • • Keep, definitely keep after revision by Grutness. "XXXX in France" should also encompass articles that wouldn't be widely known enough for the general year, and I think this is the case here. I would now argue that in general, similar "XXXX in Place" articles should redirect to the general year referenced until someone takes the effort to find at least one item "not worthy" for the general XXXX year article, plus all relevant items from the more general year article that relate to the place. How many vote changes do I get before you cut me off?  ;)--Unfocused 15:20, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

• Delete unless somebody wants to expand the page. Current content is insufficient, compared to 2004 in France. — RJH 15:34, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep with these revisions. Thanks. — RJH 17:08, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Comment. If memory serves, this was a year of massive student protests/riots in France, similar to (maybe inspired by?) student protests in the U.S. around this time, but more widespread & violent. Soundguy99 16:06, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to existing detailed article on this subject at May 1968. FreplySpang (talk) 16:20, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • I've read the rewrite. Thanks, Grutness, for the effort, but my vote stands. I don't think we need a whole series of "year in country" articles. Many things did happen in 1968 in France, but IMO "1968 in France" with no further qualification does refer to the events of May 1968. FreplySpang (talk) 14:22, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. The article is weak now, but in time it should improve. EvilPhoenix
• Merge with main year article at 1968 - many things happening in France at that time had an impact on the surrounding countries. Radiant_* 17:37, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with 1968 for now. We can always spin it back off if we determine that 1968 is filling up with French events. ESkog 18:05, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
  • The new edits are enough to justify to me that the article should be spun off the main page. Put me in the keep column. ESkog 07:18, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to May 1968 which is almost certainly what someone searching for this was looking for. --Tothebarricades.tk 19:36, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Change vote to Keep. Good save - but the lack of other "Years in France" except for a few is troublesome. --Tothebarricades.tk 16:48, May 15, 2005 (UTC)

• Keep Just because there isn't much content doesn't mean it won't be added later by people who know about what happened in France in the year 1968 Stancel 00:46, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with 1968. Megan1967 01:07, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep definite opportunities for growth. The student protest was big, but other things happened in France in 1968 which should be worth reporting, surely? The Grenoble Winter Olympics, an attempted impeachment of Pompidou, and the first nuclear tests at Moruroa, for instance. Grutness...wha? 02:51, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
• Just delete it. There's nothing worth merging with May 1968 (i.e. there's nothing at 1968 in France that isn't already at May 1968), and anything else worthwhile that happened in France in 1968 can be listed at 1968 and/or History of France. --Angr/_comhrá 06:15, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
• Have a look now that I've had a go at it. Grutness...wha? 07:14, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. Well done Grutness for this.Capitalistroadster 09:11, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
• Merge with 1968 and possibly with May 1968 (but the latter is much more extensive in describing student revolt already). Weak keep (the additions make it stand on its own, if minimally). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 21:25, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
• By Grutness's request I took another look at it, but I still hold that many of the events there (e.g. the olympic games) were of sufficiently global impact to get this merged with 1968 in general, as I voted above. Splitting the year categories by country is, I believe, overspecialized categorization. Radiant_* 11:42, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
• KEEP Kingturtle 02:02, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

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