Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/10 Miles High

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Multiple results. Just Like You Imagined is Keep. The others are really No consensus, though it appears that a merge and redirect would be appropriate. You don't need an AfD consensus for that though. Please note, an AFD is not necessarily the most appropriate venue for deciding whether to redirect an article. That is a talkpage issue (as noted in the nominator's statement). Things brought to AfD should only be brought here if it is reasonable to believe that the community needs to keep or delete something by consensus, not whether the community needs to reorganize. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 18:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] 10 Miles High

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Nominating for deletion per a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music (see here) concerning articles for non-single songs/tracks with limited notablity. Deletion (as opposed to a redirect to an album page) seems preferable in this particular case since the song appears on multiple Nine Inch Nails releases. I'm also nominating for similar reasons the following articles (the last of which I'm iffy about, but figured it was worth nominating along with the others):

Drewcifer (talk) 19:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

  • Delete and redirect Delete the first three and redirect "Just Like You Imagined" to The Fragile. --Brandt Luke Zorn (talk) 04:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment I think each of these articles should be nominated separately. All the AFD links for these articles leads to "10 Miles High." The merits each article should be addressed individually. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 16:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • And a Keep for Just Like You Imagined. While the song was not a single, has achieved a level notability as a result of it's extensive use in and for the advertising of 300. Further spurring an Internet meme in which the the song was used in various parody's. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 16:35, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
The nomination page suggested nominating similar articles by lumping them all into the same AfD. Drewcifer (talk) 16:40, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
I missed that. Notwithstanding, my previous keep stands. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
  • If content gets merged, redirect to preserve edit history. Just Like You Imagined has source-able for The Fragile. There is nothing to merge from 10 Miles High (merely a summary) and At the Heart of It All (info was already at 26 Mixes for Cash). –Pomte 19:22, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
  • Strong keep. I believe these should be listed and discussed separately, since they may well warrant differential handling. I'll note that Just Like You Imagined is well sourced enough to suggest stand-alone notability, particularly given its prominent connection to a film. Since they're together, I'd like to point out that WP:MUSIC indicates that "Most songs do not merit an article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for a prominent album or for the artist who wrote or prominently performed the song." Note the similarity to this AfD, which I closed today. The fact that these songs may have appeared in more than one location is not reason to delete them, although it may be reason to include a separate section at the discography for multi-appearing tracks. They remain valid search terms, and hence it seems better to handle them in line with the consensus established in the guideline. It might be best to merge/redirect those that warrant it into the first product on which they appeared. At the Heart of It All could be merged as proposed into the album article Further Down the Spiral (and retained for GFDL reasons accordingly); The New Flesh could be merged with Into the Void (Nine Inch Nails song). No one has proposed merging 10 Miles High into We're in This Together, but that might be the best home for it. WikiProject album recommends including information (up to a paragraph on each) on each song in album/ep articles, and there's no reason for this information to be lost because finding a home for it is a little more messy than usual. Although as a participant now in this AfD, I am not obviously going to be in a position to close this AfD, I will gladly help with merging accordingly if the AfD closed in that fashion. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:08, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.