Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/1-5-7-1

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was dismissed as the article has been rewritten, expanded, sourced since the AFD nomination. No prejudice against renomination. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-27 07:32Z

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I initially put this on proposed deletion, but the template was removed by Luna Santin citing that he wasn't familiar with precedent in this area. Looking at the article, it appears to be just a message bank service for telephone companies in the UK. I don't think any country's message bank service is notable and worth having a wikipedia article on because not much can be described about it beyond its features (which are generally the same everywhere). I note, however, that we have other phone number articles; 9-1-1, 000 emergency and 1-1-1 come to mind, while we have articles on all the N11 codes. I think emergency services and many of the services provided by n11 numbers are more important than voicemail, though admittedly some of the articles for the individual n11 numbers could be merged. As for this case, the article should be deleted as it is a message bank and not much can be said about it. Graham87 11:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

  • Speedy delete wiki != yellow pages :-( ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 12:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - unfortunately this is a pretty obvious deletion. Wikipedia is not the Yellow Pages. MER-C 12:52, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Uh, yeah, delete per nom. Natalie 14:23, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete - per WP:NOT#DIRECTORY and for the fact that there's nothing special about this number. Jayden54 15:20, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom and Jayden, with the observation that Graham is to be commended for his particularly thorough nom and that I concur in MER-C's observation that deletion here is a bit unfortunate, inasmuch as this is better-written and -sourced than the average article one encounters at AfD. Joe 19:10, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge with Voice Mail. There should be some salvagable material. hateless 20:34, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. My, my, looks that was an unpopular call, on my part. :p Mainly, prod was backlogged by two days and nobody else seemed to be looking at it. I've deleted over 200 pages, over the past two days, if it makes anybody feel better -- not having been to Britain, and not ever having seen something like this at AfD, I figured it couldn't hurt to get a little more input. Looks like people want to delete, although I'm not sure that there would be any harm in leaving a redirect (what else could someone possibly be looking for, after all?). Luna Santin 21:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Rewrite - a page on Telco "Call minder" services and redirect to, they differ from Answerphones, and it's questionable if they are fully featured enough to be considered as true voicemail. Otherwise, I'd say keep as is. Ace of Risk 21:42, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Redirect and merge as per the way that 1-4-7-1 does to what the service is i.e. a class of central office based voicemail services, and tone down the blatant advertising for BT. Compared to the voicemail article though it is well written so be shame to lose its contents. Ttiotsw 01:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: Those looking at the article and this AfD debate might want to consider that it's been majorly rewritten with the rewrite starting at 15:34 UTC. I too think it would be a shame to lose the article as it is now, so I wouldn't be voting delete. If I had just encountered the article as it is now, I wouldn't have marked it for deletion, now that I know that 1-5-7-1 is not just some random phone number but it's actually a class of voicemail-type services in the UK. I think the article is now large and comprehensive enough that it can stand on its own; if it was merged to a generic article like voicemail, then the voicemail article would put too much emphasis on UK services. At this stage my recommendation would be to keep or merge and provide less detail somewhere like UK telephone numbering plan. Graham87 03:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.