Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/.me

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. --- Glen 05:32, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] .me

WP:OR, and erroneous. There is no factual basis for the article. It is mere speculation with no citations --kjd 04:54, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete for crystal balling. I'm no expert, but the article itself almost seems to imply that there's another TLD they could easily use. BigHaz 05:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete until it's formally established. Herostratus 05:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete There's no use for this article
• Delete as speculation. --Metropolitan90 06:11, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete: WP:OR and WP:NOT a crystal ball. (|-- UlTiMuS 10:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete —Khoikhoi 22:32, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as per BigHaz. Hohohob 01:32, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Note, it sounds more like a weak attempt at DNS humor. --Dennis The TIger 01:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• Delete unless there's proof that this ccTLD is actually "reserved" as it says in the article. Otherwise, this article is just guessing that there may (or may not) be this ccTLD eventually, and there's no information whatsoever on who's going to run it. Welcome back when the country code is in ISO, at least. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 11:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• strong Deleteper nom - Blood red sandman 14:59, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. If you only know to read references in English, please consider that there are other languages, too. ("At the meeting of August 24th 2006. Government of Montenegro accepted two letters (ME) and three letters code (MNE) for Montenegro. Technical administration of .ME domain is delegated to the Agency for development. Source: http://www.internodium.org/node/2683") --millosh (talk (sr:)) 15:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

• Comment: The vast majority of net business is done in English as a standard, mostly by handshake agreement. Besides, this is also the English language Wikipedia. Further, and as wwwwolf states, there needs to be evidence of a ccTLD reservation. You've turned up nothing other than a URL to an article in Cyrillic. --Dennis The TIger 15:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
  1. All relevant encyclopedias accepts references in other languages. If you think that English Wikipedia shouldn't do so, I think that you are at least someone who is not relevant to contribute to one encyclopedia. Besides that, such claim is xenophobic. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 16:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
  2. You showed that you don't know to make a difference between Cyrillic and Latin alphabet. And you are using Latin alphabet. Source is written in Latin alphabet. (Also, I made a mistake about the first link; it is non-existant; correct link is http://www.rsr.cg.yu (not http://www.rsr.cg.GOV.yu). And you couldn't se a Cyrillic alphabet there, too.) --millosh (talk (sr:)) 16:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
  3. I have a current event news and I added it into the relevant articles. Saying that this is about crystal ball is extremely rude if you are not introduced in such issues. The only relevant comment here gave Herostratus. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 16:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
• The reason I proposed this deletion is I work for the IANA, and am involved in the deliberations of the ISO 3166 Maintenance Agency, and know for a fact that evaluations are still ongoing. The Government of Montenegro doesn't decide either what the code is, or who runs the TLD should it come to fruition. The fact is it is crystal balling to say otherwise. For ".me" to be a TLD it needs to be decided by both ISO 3166 MA (comprised of ten organisations) and IANA itself, and if that reference says otherwise it is incorrect. --kjd 23:38, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Hmm... My translation was not so good: The original news say that Montenegro government at August 24th accepted ISO proposal for two and three letters codes. So, ISO proposed and Montenegro government accepted. If agreement about two letters code with ISO doesn't mean that it would be an Internet domain, then this article should be deleted. Otherwise, it should be kept. Information is based on Montenegro pro-government newspaper Vijesti. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 00:34, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Yes, this is wikipedia in english language, and it should not provide to its users speculative or original research articles, but Wikipedia has also two ground rules:

• to be free enyclopedia (anybody can edit it - users who know languages other than English can add content which is not easy accessible to others, meaning users who know only english language) (Wikipedia:Five pillars - 3rd pillar)
• Wikipedia does not have firm rules - (Wikipedia:Five pillars - 5th pillar) as such, wikipedia is following popular culture and is more often more accurate to reality than Britannica or other sources of information

And yes, as of today .me TL domain doesn't exist, but as I am informed (as Internet user since 1994.) if every island with some degree of independance has its own TLD, Montenegro as a new state has the full right to get it. And fact (reason) that new domain is not already here is only of IANA (or Montenegro state request to IANA) procedure. SpeedyGonsales 16:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Comment: As I see, some steps are done: (1) Montenegro asked ISO; (2) ISO said proposal; (3) Montenegro government decided to accept proposal; and some are not done: (4) Montenegro didn't send a letter to ISO (or ISO didn't get letter yet); (5) ISO didn't announced that it is done (but, if both sides agreed there I don't see any reason why not to announce it in the near future); (6) Montenegro didn't send a letter to IANA (or IANA didn't get letter yet); (7) IANA didn't accepted ISO proposal, but as the article about two letters ISO codes say, the main purpose of those letters is usage for ccTLDs. (Yes, of course, I know that it can be different, but different ccTLD and ISO TLC is an exception, not the rule.) (8) IANA didn't send a letter with acception to Montenegro; (9) Montenegro didn't say "yes, we agree" about something which is ageed; (10) Montenegro didn't send a letter to IANA with it's agreement; (11) IANA didn't list that as a ccTLD. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 20:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• The steps listed here have very little correlation to reality, which again reinforces this is WP:OR and should be removed until such time the appropriate authorities make a determination. (More than one code has been under consideration by ISO 3166 MA, not just "ME") --kjd 20:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

So, if Wikipedia may have the article 2024 Summer Olympics, I see no reason to delete this article which would be a formal fact in a couple of months. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 20:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

• There is little contention that there will be olympics every 4 years, however the new codes used for Serbia and Montenegro are not determined. Whether ISO has been doing consultations with the Government of Montenegro on possibilities is not germane. --kjd 20:18, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

  If you have informations from ISO, please, let me know is the claim of Montenegrin government truth or not (as I said, they claim that they accepted ISO proposal for the codes). I am not saying that it is not possible that they badly understud ISO proposal. At least, if claim of Montenegrin government is correct, ISO sent some proposal to them. So, do you know anything about that proposal? --millosh (talk (sr:)) 00:19, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

• I have no reason to suspect it is not true, although I suspect it is a consultation by the secretariat to see how they feel about the code, and doesn't symbolise ratification. Other codes have been under consideration also. --kjd 01:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Following the rules for naming the country top level domains, it is absolutely obvious that alpha-2 code will also be the top level domain for Montenegro--Vitriden 00:19, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

• Delete or Redirect to Montenegro. —Wknight94 (talk) 11:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - if Montenegro gets .me it will be recreated in any case, if not it will be deleted. All the other top level domains have articles and this one does contain some encyclopaedic material. TerriersFan 03:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.