Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/'twas now bridge

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Perhaps a (referenced) section in Grand River? Neil (►) 15:30, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 'twas now bridge

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No assertion of notability, no corroboration in reliable sources. Seems to be just a local in-joke. Eyrian 22:30, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Agree per Eyrian CredoFromStart ^talk 14:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

It's not an "in-joke" ask anyone in the tri-city area and they'll know what you're talking about, thousands of people drive by that bridge daily. How do you reference a colloquialism? If there was an unreferenced article on cockney slang would that also lack notability? There have been two bands named after this bridge (since disbanded, excuse the pun) does that make it notable? Would a picture of it make you happy? There has been more effort put into this article than certain one-line, one-reference articles on the site.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.124.155.26 (talk • contribs).

There is a very similar phenomenon, the Surrender Dorothy bridge. That article remains because the graffiti was reported on in reliable sources, and the article is referenced. This article is not. And in order for Wikipedia to remain verifiable, articles must be referenced to independent, reliable sources. Which this article does not have. --Eyrian 15:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Here is a webpage I just found showing an image of the bridge http://www.sidr.ca/i/twasnow... Older picture I think.

There you go, it's referenced in an independant source!--131.104.152.179 18:47, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

I can't get that page to load, so I cannot comment on its content. But a simple picture, or self-published description, does not count as a reliable source. --Eyrian 20:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

The picture proves that it exists, which is the extent of the article. I would say that makes it a very reliable source.--74.124.155.26 21:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately, that's not correct. Read about the reliable source policy. Further, read the notability policy. This article does not fit either, so should be Deleted. -- Kesh 00:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

• Photographic evidence is of possible relevance--this is not entirely a word-bound civilization, or encyclopedia. It this case it does demonstrate the the bridge exists, and indicates the source of the photo. That's not enough to show that it's notable to anyone else,, but supplementary visual evidence , such as commercial postcards, might be able to demonstrate that. DGG 04:00, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Maybe our fellow wikipedian User:Twas Now could have some insight into this... he's from Ontario, so I assume there's some kind of connection. However, I've been close to a dispute about canvassing recently so I'm not sure if it's cool to ask him. CredoFromStart ^talk 14:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

He's affiliated with the university of waterloo. Waterloo is the neighbouring city to Kitchener where the bridge is located. I'm sure this is no coincidence. It's a well known bridge, and commonly referred to by that name.--131.104.152.179 14:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I am going to refrain from offering my opinion on whether or not this article should be kept. However, it is true that my user name is taken from that bridge. Every time I drive by it, I make sure to read the graffiti. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 15:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm from winnipeg, manitoba. I met some people from the kitchener area a few nights ago and they were talking about fishing in the ponds that used to be quarries near the 'twas now bridge. I remember the bridge name and thought it was pretty weird, so I hopped on wikipedia to look it up, and hey! there was an article. I'm sorry to hear that it's been nominated for deletion, there's even a picture to prove it's there! If word of the bridge has reached this far, I think it should stay! --24.79.92.136 20:55, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

• Delete unless someone can provide evidence of notability. I tried but Google has five hits, including Wikipedia. Nuttah68 09:17, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
• A small tech company in the Kitchener-Waterloo area calls itself Twasnow Co. (it might just be one person). Not claiming this means anything outside of a local(s) finding notoriety in the bridge. --Oakshade 06:43, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.