Talk:Artur Nebe

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This bio of arthur Nebe looks like it was just taken straight of the pages of the book Fatherland. Shouldn't there be a more definitive source on him, not just a paragraph taken from a book?

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I've understood that it's a myth that Nebe and others involved in the plot we're hanged with piano wire.

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The biography of Arthur Nebe is a very difficult one to write. Myth, weak sources to what actually lay behind his decisions and a very contradictionary set of facts. First a well renowned crime fighter within the Weimar democracy, then at a rather late stage (1931) a member of the DNSAP and a blitz-krieg avancement through the system in the Nazi State from 1933. An then again, at the time when everything looked bright for the 3rd. Reich, in the late 30thies he turned against the regime - the same so from 1939-1942 when even more conservative forces within Preussia and Die Wermacht became impressed with the impressive results in France, the early advance in Russia etc. etc. It is known (sources, please) that he tried to avoid being associated with the Einsatz Gruppen, even before operation Barbarossa, knowing that it would make him responsible for unbelievable crimes against humanity. And that he was persuaded by other anti-hitler associates to take the position (sources please). In Easterne Europe and Russia it is known that his Einsatz Gruppe did not kill nearly as many as expected and that he exagerated the results in his reports and thereby probably saved thousands of civilians, while being directly responsible for the murder of thousands of others. It is not the wiki's job to judge: Hero or murder. But when writing this article we can hope that over time some of us will be able to find better sources to cast light onto the history of Arthur Nebe. Was he playing on two horses, was he - from 1938 - only a nazi by name but in reality a trojan horse for the resistance? I will try to gather better sources and more information and hope to be able to help improving this article. Arthur Nebe is probably a good looking glass to see through if you dont just want a black or white picture of Germany 1933-1945. --Carsten Levin (talk) 11:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Criminal Police

Criminal Police isn't a very good translation and it would be more correct to use a term like CID or Detective police.(Morcus (talk) 17:10, 7 May 2008 (UTC))

Good point; I edited it a little. Salmanazar (talk) 16:12, 8 May 2008 (UTC)