Talk:Articaine
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it's not an advertisement; statements of increased usage are factual.--Jeff 04:36, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
That said, this article still sucks. I'm no good at this pharmacology stuff. someone who knows what they're doing please help out :D--Jeff 04:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] Subject matter
This looks like a standard local anesthetic preparation - carticaine as the anesthetic, and epinephrine to reduce bleeding. I'm not sure about the significance of the subject. Unless a case can be made for notability the article may well end up deleted.
Having said that, I see that articaine or carticaine, the active ingredient, are still missing an article. Maybe someone could have a stab at that. Pilatus 05:20, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Requested move
Septocaine → Articaine – {reason for move} copied from the entry on the WP:RM page
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[edit] Discussion
- As articaine is the INN of the relevant active ingredient (hey, it's a local anesthetic) and Septocaine is merely a trade name of a preparation I'd suggest a move to the INN. Also, the article on articaine, a newer ester/amide anesthetic is still missing. Pilatus 17:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
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- That's pretty good reasoning I think, but let me fill in some details of what I think. I started this article because I went to the dentist the other day, asked my dentist "So what kind of whatevercaine are you guys using these days" and my dentist said he was using Septocaine. I hadn't ever heard of it before, so I went to the Wikipedia List of drugs, of which Septocaine was listed on List_of_drugs:_Se-Sh. Seeing the link was red, I did some internet research and filled in what blanks a layman could, because the list of drugs category page states "Note: Please contribute by editing or expanding these lists. Refer to this talk page for contributor notes." so that's what I did. So, getting to my point, if the stated goal is to make a page (atleast a stub) for every drug, brand name or not, then I figure we should spend our extra time throwing in an article about articaine in addition to this one, rather than moving this one (which would have to be re-written when renamed for articaine anyway). --Jeff 00:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
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- If you look at the entry for Xylocaine, which is another "-caine" preparation, you will be redirected to Lidocaine, which is the INN for the drug. That article says in the introduction that a lidocaine preparation is also marketed as xylocaine by AstraZeneca. (Xylocaine contains epinephrine, too.) To be consistent, we should do the same thing with this drug - move the entry to "articaine" and say in the introduction that Septocaine is a preparation marketed by such-and-such.
- (Note to self: track down the FDA-mandated prescription information. Those data sheets are pretty coprehensive.) Pilatus 02:39, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, that does make sense to bring it inline with other articles with redirects and such, although personally, I still think it would be useful if each brand named drug had its own page describing the specific preperation, because each preperation is different. For instance, different preperations of articaine seem to use different concentrations of epinephrine, which may or may not be included in an article about articaine.--Jeff 05:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- In the US it's called zorcaine and distributed by Cook-Waite, a subsidiary of Kodak. [1] No idea if it goes under yet another name in Japan. What I'm saying is that we might have a maintenance problem if we try to keep seperate articles for all the names the ingredient is known as. We can always (we should) have a paragraph or two that adds some details about the preparation and the manufacturers. Pilatus 14:50, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Well, that does make sense to bring it inline with other articles with redirects and such, although personally, I still think it would be useful if each brand named drug had its own page describing the specific preperation, because each preperation is different. For instance, different preperations of articaine seem to use different concentrations of epinephrine, which may or may not be included in an article about articaine.--Jeff 05:44, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
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