Talk:Artemis Fowl (novel)

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[edit] British/American spellings

Do we spell in British English or American English in this article? Just wondering. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

British, as the book is Irish. Ale_Jrbtalk 17:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Got it. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 22:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This article is fine about from the film section, which I have been thinking about alot. I followed the references and did serahces myself, and there hasn't been any updates since mid 2006, and no IMDB page exists so it seems very unlikely this movie has even entered production let alone will be released this year. Due to the confusion over the status of the movie the paragraph really just seems to be speculation even with the references. I see two possibilities. Firsly, create an article for the movie itself where all that information can be put and simply link to it. Or secondly, cut it down to one sentance stating that Eoin Colfer has confirmed there will be a movie but it is not sure when production on this will start. This could stay in the section, or it could be moved to the lead. It needed mentioning in the lead anyway. Million_Moments (talk) 14:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Heh - the film section has actually been merged in since I nominated the article, and I know nothing about it (and didn't write it!) which is why it's a little out of place. However, the film did have its own article, which was removed as the article wasn't substantial enough, so I think I'll just shrink it. I'll leave it in its section, and mention it in the lead. Ale_Jrbtalk 21:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Actually, the whole section is gone - it just didn't seem to fit. Ale_Jrbtalk 21:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Well it being added later on certainly explains why the section was never mentioned by any of the previous reviews! Million_Moments (talk) 23:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Successful good article nomination

I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of March 23, 2008, compares against the six good article criteria:

1. Well written?: Pass - lead needed some expansion to include more details of plot.
2. Factually accurate?: Pass, issues with film section solved by it's removal. Be careful of the addition of original research to themes section which should be exapnded with information on themes of the book from author interviews if possible
3. Broad in coverage?: Pass
4. Neutral point of view?: Pass - good selection of positive and negative reviews of the book
5. Article stability? Pass
6. Images?: Pass

If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.— Million_Moments (talk) 23:09, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Great! *horray* :) Thanks much. :) Ale_Jrbtalk 23:12, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] FA criteria

So here's the FA criteria:


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    • (d) "Neutral" means that the article presents views fairly and without bias.
    • (e) "Stable" means that the article is not the subject of ongoing edit wars and that its content does not change significantly from day to day, except for edits made in response to the featured article process.
  2. It follows the style guidelines, including:
    • (a) a concise lead section that summarizes the topic and prepares the reader for the greater detail in the subsequent sections;
    • (b) a system of hierarchical headings and table of contents that is substantial but not overwhelming (see section help);
    • (c) consistently formatted inline citations using either footnotes[1] or Harvard referencing (Smith 2007, p. 1), where they are appropriate (see 1c). (See citing sources for suggestions on formatting references; for articles with footnotes or endnotes, the meta:cite format is recommended.)
  3. It has images and other media where they are appropriate to the subject, with succinct captions and acceptable copyright status. Non-free images or media must meet the criteria for the inclusion of non-free content and be labeled accordingly.
  4. ? It is of appropriate length, staying focused on the main topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
I have marked the ones we definitely meet with "" , and marked the ones that need work with "?". Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:46, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Artemis Fowl (character)

It says that Artemis Fowl II is the protagonist of the book. I'd say that this is a bit biased... or is it actually fine? Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 01:22, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, isn't he? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:41, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
If I remember correctly, there was a section in the article about how the "good" and "bad" wasn't defined very clearly... something about how Artemis was antagonistic when kidnapping Holly/from the fairies' POV, he was a "bad guy" but then again the fairies weren't exactly sparkling either... *cough* Cudgeon.

And how'd you get this comment so fast? Are all the pages in the project on your watchlist? Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 03:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, this page has been a good article nominee since last week, so it's on my watchlist. I've got quite a few of the articles on my watchlist, too. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 03:52, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I've changed protagonist to main character... cept that Holly was a main character too... Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 18:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
I'd say protagonist is better, the "definition" of protagonist is the character that undergoes change because of what happens in the plot, and that's definitely Artemis (changing from greedy to nice).Calvin 1998 (t-c) 18:27, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

If you want... I'm not going to get into an argument about this. Depends on what side you're on. Unidentified Flying Bunny in the Sky Talk Contribs 20:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)