Talk:Artaxerxes III of Persia

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Good article Artaxerxes III of Persia has been listed as one of the History good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can delist it, or ask for a reassessment.
May 1, 2008 Good article nominee Listed

[edit] GA REVIEW

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:
  • REf 1, 5, 12, 22, 35, 36, 37 are not WP:RS. See Wikipedia:Reliable source examples. references and relevant text deleted.
  • Ref 27 is dead link.link and relating text removed
  • ref 17, 18, 24 are links to wikiprojects, which are not considered RS.
  • OR: "The theory further suggests that the daughter was pregnant with Artaxerxes' son, who is thought to be Alexander the Great.[38] This could be another explanation why Alexander adopted the Persian royal title of Shahanshah."
  • "(probably pronounced Uvasu)" needs ref.
  • "Throughout his reign, he continued a policy of terror." OR, contradiction to "Assert facts, including facts about opinions—but do not assert the opinions themselves." - NPOV policy.
  • "But Nectanebo II was deficient in generals, and over-confident in his own powers of command." OR
  • "These consisted of mixed troops, partly Greek and partly Egyptian; between whom jealousies and suspicions were easily sown by the Persian leaders, who by these means rapidly reduced the secondary cities of Lower Egypt, and were advancing upon Memphis, when Nectanebo in despair quit the country and fled southwards to Ethiopia." Too long
  • "Artaxerxes' victory in Egypt not only redeemed his former failure, but elevated himself in the opinions of men to the same level as Cyrus the Great, Cambyses II, and Darius the Great." OR
  • "Artaxerxes’ success in Egypt brought a new sense of revival to the empire. Neighbouring countries again realised the power and influence of the Persian Empire." OR
  • "Isocrates of Athens started his speeches calling for a ‘crusade against the barbarians’ " needs reference
  • "The Persian Empire was once again occupying its old borders and proving its ability to rule over a very large territory." personal POV, OR
  • "By the last year of Artaxerxes' rule Philip II already had plans for invasion of the Persian Empire, which would crown his career as world conqueror; But his propaganda did not deceive the Greeks who were well aware that this propaganda just a cloak for his future conquests" Not neutral
  • "It is thought by some that the Book of Judith could have been originally based on Artaxerxes' campaign in Phoenicia, as Holofernes was the name of the brother of the Cappadocian satrap Ariarathes, the vassal of Artaxerxes, and Bagoas, the general that finds Holofernes dead, was one of the generals of Artaxerxes during his campaign against Phoenicia and Egypt" Too long.

Good luck improving the article, especially on searching RS references and "Assert facts, including facts about opinions—but do not assert the opinions themselves." --Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:50, 3 April 2008 (UTC)


GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

Very good! Nice improvement from last GA review. ṜέđṃάяķvюĨїήīṣŢ Drop me a line§ 03:20, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Minor comments

  • What's the volume number for the Cambridge Ancient History citation?
  • Fuller web citations would be desirable. Listing author, title, publisher, and publication date information is a must for articles moving on to FAC. It's simply good practice. Check out {{Template:Cite web}} for an easy fill-in-the-blanks approach to web citations. Geuiwogbil (Talk) 04:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)