Talk:Art punk

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I would suggest that some merger take place between this article and the Art-Pop/Punk/Metal page. --Mjspe1 12:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Contents 1 Not Punk? 2 Clean up 3 Deleting Bands 4 Speedy deletion request

[edit] Not Punk?

I definately disagree with the claim that these artists are influenced by punk but are not punk, since many of these artists are considered punk artists. Also, the definition of "influenced by punk but not punk" is also the definition of Alternative, New Wave, Post-Punk and Indie Rock.

[edit] Clean up

Can someone please clean up the links on this page? At least make them alphabetical? I'm quite disposed at the moment, and don't have the time to tackle it myself. --FACT50 21:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleting Bands

I added most of bands which had been deleted. Welsey, please do not delete them without discussing them first on Talk. I've checked on Allmusic, eMusic and Rolling Stone - if reviewers have called them art-punk, then they're included in this article. Bands can fit into more than one category.

By the way, why did you follow me here from the DR article? FilmGal 02:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

The thing is "art punk" isn't necessarily a genre term. It can also be an adjective. So by describing say, Wire, as "art punk" can simply mean they are a punk band with arty tendencies. We need an actual description of the genre to work from, otherwise this list is highly subjective. Personaly I think this page could even be redirected to post-punk, since that's what many of these bands are classified as in specific genre terms. WesleyDodds 17:50, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

But here's the problem: What differentiates "art-punk" as an adjective and "art-punk" as a genre? It's not like the difference between The Doors being called "gothic" and the Sex Gang Children being a "goth rock" band. Isn't art-punk primarily punk bands with "arty tendencies"? As I'm sure everyone who is editing this article knows how little info there is on art punk, other than the music-related articles we're able to find on the web or in old magazines. So...there isn't really much of an actual description as of yet. The only main thing we have to go on is that we have found these bands as being referred to as art-punk, and the inlfluences and similarities between these bands. -- CatZilla 16:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion request

Removing the bulk of an article's content and then nominating it for speedy deletion because it lacks content is at best a disingenuous tactic. If you would like to pursue deletion of this article, please take it to articles for deletion. - EurekaLott 03:52, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

How was that disingenious? The content that was removed had been unsourced for monthes.Hoponpop69 01:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)