Talk:Art mac Art MacMurrough-Kavanagh
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[edit] 2006 posts
In my IE browser, the Irish flag covers the left hand corner of the table. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:43, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
- I've moved it down the page, but it probably needs some markup. User:Zoe|(talk) 22:45, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Did MacMurrough-Kavanagh really defeat the English?
I have read that the English under the command of King Richard II was on the verge of defeating the Irish rebels that MacMurrough-Kavanagh led before leaving Ireland to reclaim his throne in England. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.114.81 (talk • contribs) 18:24, July 1, 2006
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I would like to point out that it is possible that the unbroken line of Donel En Spannaigh last King of Leinster may well not be quite as correct as all may think since I am told that my ggggGrandfather John Cavanagh who is said to have come from Carlow, and may well have been the son of one Thomas C/Kavanagh of Borris though there were two Thomas Cavanagh's back in these times or so it's said one of whom was married on two occasions, and the second marriage was to Harriet Margeret La Pour Trench, I would like to know who was the father of my Grandfather who was born between 1751 and 1763 since he left Ireland in around 1775 came to England and the Nidd Valley Rippon Yorkshire where he married an Elizabeth then Left the Nidd to come to Leeds Yorkshire where he and his wife had two children, one of them being named Thomas after the father of John, and the other being named Maria possibly after the mother of John's Wife Elizabeth. I have records of this and they are genuine, so are the records correct one might wonder. Since there are said to be no surviving records after this time or even before this time I would like to know who can prove me to be wrong and how, since without surviving pertinant material, there is no proof either way. This family were originally a catholic family whom had been forced to change their religion or lose everything they had, therefore since John would not change his religion and remained a Catholic all his life then was he forced via the English to lose all, or was it that because if a person back in these times changed their religion to the protestant religion of England that anyone who remained Catholic had all their posessions taken from them and this was then given to anyone within that family whom had changed his or her religion to the protestant one So making that person the then head of the family even if he was the son or daughter of the said family. In effect it worked this way if a father say owned a castle and Cromwell came along you had to prove firstly that you had changed your religion, then say it was the son that had changed his religion but the father wouldn't then the son would be given everything that the father owned including the home, the father then could be thrown out of his castle via the now new owner or head of that family so long as he remained a protestant and could show that he was, this happened with many of the Cavanagh's since many of them would not change their religion so much of what was their land and property was unlawfully taken via Cromwell and before him Elizabeth 1st in her SCORCHED EARTH POLICY in which she told her soldiers to take no prisoners to kill all catle to burn all crops and buildings till there was nothing left to rule over. Following her Fathers plans to make Ireland a Protestant nation since he had now made himself head of the church of England and also the self proclaimed King of Ireland, to which not many Irish really took any notice, then he began his and Elizabeths Surender and regrant of lands and property, which was surrendered on condition that it was to be regranted back to it's owners now with British titles which could be passed down through the family forever, but of course this didn't happen some of the people did surrender their lands and property but it wasn't given back streight away, and in many cases such as with the Cavanagh's most wasn't given back to it's owners ever, and is still today being held unlawfully, so that these lands and properties have never been relinquished back to their rightfull owners. (Not signed by the author) Sarah777 (talk) 17:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
