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[edit] Official club website squad list

http://www.arsenal.com/squad.asp?thisNav=First+Team

[edit] Design options

I did originally consider an numerically-ordered list, but felt that names might be easier to find when alphabetised, perhaps a bit more egalitarian, and sometimes loaned-out players' squad numbers get given to other players... I do think that including squad numbers makes it look better though. Anyway, here are three different versions to consider:

The template can be added to player's pages by use of this: {{Arsenal F.C. Squad}}.
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 23:43, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I switched the look to the column view. I think it's much easier to read especially for someone who doesn't already know the squad. I also added Arsene Wenger at the bottom under "Manager:". Behindcurtain3 17:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The other version (non-column) is often imitated, but never bettered. The idea of the template is to create a concise method of navigating between players, for people who know the squad - otherwise why would they be navigating via this route?

  1. Columns aren't necessarily easier to read than block text.
  2. The wrapped-text version is more concise.
  3. Four columns work best with multiples of four.
  4. There is already a column-based squad list at Arsenal F.C. which the template links to (or should, see #5) that people who are unused to the squad can use.
  5. Reverting to the April 6 column version loses valuable changes since then, and also adds a player who has left Arsenal since then. Therefore it is discreditable.
  6. The addition of the manager is okay. ;oD

For these reasons, I prefer the wrapped-text version and will be reverting to the May 17 version.
Slumgum | yap | stalk | 20:05, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit button

After adding the edit button, this template suffered seven instances of vandalism in one month. I removed it, and we've since had 0 in three weeks. For this reason I am removing it again, after one was readded today.
 SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  20:56, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Loaned out players

Why have them included? I don't see the need for this... Also, why not have -- next to Tomas Rosicky instead of new as is done in the main arsenal article? Yonatanh 02:24, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

The Arsenal template isn't even on Carlos Vela's page and if there was a template for Celta Vigo, which one would be on his page? I think it should be the Celta Vigo one and then why should there be a need for him to be in the Arsenal one? Yonatanh 02:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

You do ask a lot of questions. Here are some (if not 'the') answers: The tp includes loaned players because they're still part of the club. It says "new" because the template allows "new" and implies that he'll get a squad number soon. It is now on Vela's article, and both could be used, if a Vigo one is made. I think both Vigo and AFC tps should be used, since he's part of both clubs.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  03:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for bothering you with so many questions. :P Yonatanh 14:41, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

I've changed my mind about the loaned-out players. Vela is not really part of the current squad, and the note isn't really then necessary.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  22:21, 5 July 2006 (UTC)