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[edit] Birthplace

The French Wikipedia page says he was born in Duttlenheim. This page says Strasbourg.86.145.7.244 (talk) 22:52, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Languages and SAF

He speaks five languages

Speaks at least 3 languages (French, English and German; no suprise, since he is from Strasbourg).

Alex Ferguson was knighted...should the title always be displayed?

Whilst on the subject of Fergie, in footballing terms, he too is a foreigner, as Scotland is independent with it's own FA and league system, meaning that Arsene is not the only foreigner to do the double, as both Fergie and Kenny Dalglish are foreigners as far as football is concerned. I'm not going to change it, as whenever I change anything, even if my changes are correct, someone puts it back and sends me a message telling me not to change stuff, so can someone else in a position of authority please correct this mistake.

Change the wording to non-British? Xiner (talk, email) 19:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Arsène Wenger

why is the first paragraph in bold?? its so annoying. 59.182.73.37 09:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)DK59.182.73.37 09:26, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I suggest to remove the last paragraph Controversies as it is small talk and very unimportant detail in such a man's career. The paragraph looks so elemantery and outdated as news.

Wenger must be German background...his last name doesnt sound French.... Does anybody know??? Its never mentioned which is a bit of a surprise....

He's from Strasbourg. Markyour words 21:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Strasbourg is in the Alsace region which changed between "German" and French rule several times in the last 200 years. I did read an article that mentioned that his ancestors fought against 'the other side' but I can't remember which side they fought for, or if the sides were different for each generation.
Slumgum 22:40, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Why does it say in the awards section: In October 2004, he signed a contract extension that will keep him at Arsenal through the 2007/2008 season. What has this got to do with awards? sludgey choi chi men sohne

[edit] Top 2 finishes

I changed the sentence about never being outside the top 2 since 1998 as they finished 4th this year.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.93.21.70 (talk • contribs).

[edit] English playgers

I've made an edit to the comment about him not fielding "any" English players - change made to "many", due to the fact that he does actually field a few, including Sol Campbell and Ashley Cole. Cyril Washbrook 07:49, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Controversies

The article appears skewed towards events in last season maybe the section should be divided into rivalries with Sir Alex Ferguson/Manchester United, Morinhio/Chelsea and Jol/Tottenham Hotspur —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vivbaker (talk • contribs).

So the main part of his career/life/biography is his rivalries with other managers? I don't think so. Yonatanh 02:59, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The change in Arsenal's disciplinary record since the game at ManU in 2003 is worth pointing out, but I otherwise agree with you. Xiner 16:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The man's picture

Is there no other good picture of the Professor in casual clothes? There's a guy in the background in the current one. Xiner 16:50, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

That guy is Boro Primorac, Arsenal's first team coach! (And a longtime right hand man of Arsene) TheMongoose 04:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Of course. How daft of me. Xiner (talk, email) 19:17, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] School Teacher?

I've heard it said Wenger taught in a school for a while, is this true?

[edit] Controversies, Part 2

The last two or three incidents in that section are handbags. I think we should delete them. Xiner (talk, email) 17:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The new photo

I reverted the change because a free-license image is already available, so I don't think the fair-use rationale works. Please let me know if you think I made a mistake. Xiner (talk, email) 02:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

I strongly urge the restoration of the original, free-use image on the article. I'd hate to list any more images for deletion on IFD than the three I have put there. Xiner (talk, email) 03:54, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The new edit about Alan Shearer

Even if sourced, with all due respect, the passage is still neither here nor there on this article about the manager. I'll revert it later if no one does it first - it belongs in Shearer's article really. Xiner (talk, email) 22:40, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] The change to Controversies section

Please read through this page for previous discussions regarding the section, and substantially change the article only after a discussion. Thank you. The Carling Cup thing was blown out of proportion by the media - Andy Gray said two red cards would've sufficed! And it doesn't change the fact that no one's complained about Arsenal's disciplinary behavior in three years. Xiner (talk, email) 14:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Milestone

Sky Sports News claimed that the Gunners' next game will be Wenger's 400th league game in charge, which puts the 605 stated in the article in question. - Dudesleeper · Talk 19:32, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

I only see the ca.-600 numbers in the article when talking about Wenger's total games in charge of Arsenal. That includes cup games like the F.A. Cup. Xiner (talk, email) 19:37, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
I thought only league games were to be included in those tables. Are cup games included in his stats for his other managerial positions? If not, that makes it very Arsenal top-heavy. Dudesleeper · Talk 19:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Usually they break them out into cup and league games, but please see Sir_Alex_Ferguson#Managerial_honours. Total games include cup games there, it seems. Xiner (talk, email) 20:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Biography

I'd deliberately left it out of WikiBanners because I thought the BLP warning should be displayed prominently. Xiner (talk, email) 13:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Assistant

Does anyone have any useful info about Arsene's relationship with Pat Rice, or any of his other assistants elsewhere? I think this would be a useful addition to the article.  slυмgυм [ ←→ ] 18:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Accomplishments

I've changed the part where Wenger signed these "unknown players" at Arsenal. As far as I recall, Nicolas Anelka was relatively heard of in England, during 1997 - before he signed for the Gunners. Manchester United and Liverpool were also linked to the French striker. Lemonade51 20:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I checked the french article and I saw that he got a Bachelor's degree of economic sciences, and not a master. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.121.141.74 (talk) 19:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nonsense

A tag has been placed on Arsène Wenger, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the page appears to have no meaningful content or history, and the text is unsalvageably incoherent.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion. To do this, add {{hangon}} on the top of the page (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag) and leave a note on the page's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

If the page you created was a test, please use the sandbox for any other experiments you would like to do. Feel free to leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions about this. 81.158.248.9 21:42, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

The speedy tag wasn't placed in error, it was an obvious act of vandalism and has been removed. --Jameboy 22:02, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Opening paragraph

The second sentence of thie introduction describes Arsene Wenger as "the club's most successful manager", without having actually specified which club he manages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.69.83.230 (talk) 00:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Absent personal life

This page could do with a thing or two about him that aren't related to his career —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.196.255.189 (talk) 15:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Cone

I notice that there has been a very interesting addition to this article about Arene "Conedog" Wenger's famous career as a pro conemaster. I am surprised that it has taken this long for someone to mention it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.19.0 (talk) 20:37, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


If you look through the rest of it, you'll see that he is also called "lean" a "toke master" and someone who's smoked the double. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.229.236.214 (talk) 21:35, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] No mention of "Wenger vision"?

Ive noticed theres no mention of Wenger's famous "Wenger vision" where he can see any opposition tackles but doesnt see anything his own team.

An example is Nicklas Bendnter vs Emmanuel Adebayor

A quote from the man himself "I haven't seen that. I don't know anything about it. I don't know what you're talking about"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/league_cup/7201183.stm a link to the quote

Im sure its been noticed before. 77.99.186.110 (talk) 15:59, 19 May 2008 (UTC)