Talk:Army of Darkness

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Contents 1 Plot Edits 2 Disputed text 3 Edit Request 4 Category:Time travel films 5 Fantasy 6 Also known as 7 Comics 8 Non-POV? 9 Release date? 10 Robotic hand?

[edit] Plot Edits

I put some information about the director's cut ending in the plot area, because it's still part of the plot.

[edit] Disputed text

Army of Darkness did not earn a lot of money at the box office, however, and Raimi has been unable to find funding for a new Evil Dead movie. There have been rumors of a movie staring Bruce Campbell's character in the Evil Dead films starring in a sequel to Freddy Vs. Jason, referred to as Freddy Vs. Jason Vs. Ash. Both Raimi and Campbell have expressed interest in another Evil Dead film.

This is in dispute: see Talk:The Evil Dead

[edit] Edit Request

From what I've read in other movie articles here, it would be keeping with Wikipedia standards for someone (a better writer than me) to add a little blurb about how the ending of Evil Dead II and the begining of Army of Darkness don't exactly match up and what budget/director/producer/studio forces led to this small inconsistancy.

Wiki Tiki God 15:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Category:Time travel films

Re: [1]. No, the "beginning and ending" of the film do not contain time travel. The beginning does, in the recap. The ending, in all versions, has no time travel; Ash is returned to his native time period after ingesting a sleeping potion. Other than one scene in the entire film, time travel plays no important role in the story; it's not at all a meaningful aspect of the film, it's strictly a means to an end. As such, I don't believe that this category should be included here.--SB | T 06:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Time travel is not incidental to the film, it is the primary objective of the main character. Time travel brought him to a mythical past and brought him back in the end. If this does not consitute a time travel film, then what does? How is this different from A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court? Abisai 06:20, 17 June 2006

Time travel doesn't occur in the alternate end of the film, Ash just sleeps for a very long time, not really time travel! Alastairward 09:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Again, how is this different from A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court? A man awakens in the past and sleeps back into the future. Both plots feature this. One is considered the first instance of fictional time travel according to Wikipedia. The other was removed from the list of time travel films. I do not comprehend this distinction.Abisai 11:25, 20 June 2006

Time travel is important to the plot of the three films, if Ash didn't go back in time to seize the Necronomicon, how else would he be featured in it? (I agree, its a time travel film) Alastairward 18:55, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

It's definitely a time travel movie. The ending is time travel, though the alternative ending is definitely not. In the alternative ending Ash has to swallow six drops of the juice to sleep six centuries and awaken in his own time. In the happy ending he has to swallow the juice and recite the magical words exactly to awaken in his own time (a bit ambiguous, I guess the line was taken verbatim from the other ending), though his retelling of the story suggests he just "appeared" in his own time and that his failure to recite the words properly is the cause of the "she-bitch" appearing in S-Mart.

That the entire premise of the movie is that Ash travels through time into the past and introduces modern aspects into a medieval setting makes this rather obviously a time-travel movie (see the Yankee note above). Of course it's also a fantasy/horror movie because of the legion of the undead, but it's supposed to be a historical setting within the alternative universe the prequels established (i.e. where the undead are very real indeed). — Ashmodai ^{(talk · contribs)} 13:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, pretty much what everyone here said. The important aspect of time travel fiction is not the depiction of the time travel method, rather it is the presence of the character in a non-naturally occuring time period. JHG 03:18, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fantasy

On TV they said it was a Fantasy movie. 216.174.135.175 19:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)jamhaw

So?--SUIT⁴² 05:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, and Raimi and Campbell admit that it's more action-adventure than horror. I agree. But that doesn't stop all sorts of people (apparently people who have seen about a total of 4 horror films) from calling Army of Darkness one of their favorite horror films. What are ya gonna do? Suggest Evil Dead 1 or 2 and move on.

[edit] Also known as

Where the hell do all those alternate names come from? 199.126.137.209 08:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Comics

Anyone fancy starting a new section for the comics? It'll get a lot of heat thanks to the Marvel crossover and people will be interested in fidning out more about the others. Army of Darkness (comics) seems appropriate. (Emperor 22:41, 24 February 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Non-POV?

Isn't this article in violation of Wikipedia's non-POV requirement for article entries? The whole page reads like one long advertisement for the mega-corporation S-Mart and its fiscal conglomerates. --Teetotaler

What are you talking about?--$UIT 05:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

What am I talking about? Notice how the article mentions S-Mart over and over? In fact, the films original conclusion has Ash ending up in the future, but because of corporate pressure from Holywood and S-Mart, the Raimi brothers were forced to change the film's ending so that Ash winds up working at S-Mart. I know S-Mart's CEO has denied these allegations, but one need not look much further than this article to realize the insidiousness of their marketing strategy and capitalist ploy. Does the phrase Manufacturing Consent help one to realize the pervasiveness of corporatism and pecuniary interest? In light of these undeniable facts, one ought to reread and edit this article with caution so that it reads less like an advertisement for S-Mart than an entry on a movie which makes the stories of Edgar Allen Poe seem as unterrifying and dauntless as the US government. --Teetotaler 20 May 2007

The original ending was too depressing for me. Glad they changed it. And so what if he ended back in S-Mart? I always believed it was to lead the audience to think that either: A:Everything's back to normal or B:Everything may have been a dream-up untillthe deadite shows up.JackorKnave (talk) 20:57, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Release date?

intro says 1992, but infobox says 93. Which is it? Murderbike 04:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Robotic hand?

Was it really "robotic"? Or was it simple wires running down his arm? So when he extends his arm or twists his arm it pulls on wires which are connected to the fingers, closing/opening them?

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 02:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)