Talk:Armin Cruz

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These stub articles on figures involved in detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib make an important contribution to Wikipedia - many thanks to those who have worked on them. However, I think there's a problem with the following verbiage: "...Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal in Baghdad, Iraq during and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq." From everything that I've seen, documented abuse at the prison did not begin until October of 2003, while the invasion had ended by May 1st of 2003, when President Bush declared the end of major ground combat. Are there any sources to support the claim that abuse of prisoners took place at Abu Ghraib during the invasion, as the first sentence of this article states? Please back it up. Rafa8134 21:42, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't think there are pictures, or other evidence, of those seven abusing captive earlier than the fall of 2004. But Chip Frederick commented on the discharge of another soldier from their unit. A reservist who was a Police officer in civilian life. IIRC she was accused of roughing up captives in retaliation for Jessica Lynch. Nagem Hatab was beaten, left outside, naked, and otherwise abused because his captors believed he had played some role in Jessica Lynch's rape and torture. He had been captured trying to sell an M16 in the bazaar with a serial number that showed it had been issued to one of the soldiers in her platoon. Of course she wasn't tortured. The doctors and nurses sang her to sleep, hid her from Saddam's men, and had her use the only sand bed in the hospital, so she wouldn't get bed sores.

There were the other GIs who made the two teenage boys jump off the bridge into the river, where one drowned, shortly after the invasion.

I think it safe to assume that the SEAL team that administered the initial beating to the corpse you see packed in ice cubes were routinely administering that level of brutal beat-down to captives. That particular team is known to have beaten at least one other captive to death.

One little publicized aspect to Lynch's rescue -- the GIs who came to get her ruined the very expensive sand bed before they left her hospital room. A very poor payment to the staff of the hospital who all put their lives on the line to hid her from Saddam's men. Geo Swan (talk) 07:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The militarylawyer reference?

I dunno about this reference. Is this an authorized mirror? If not it should go. I put the ref in <ref> format, but I am not endorsing it. Geo Swan (talk) 07:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)