Talk:Arktika 2007
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what's the need in "would have" statement by a representative of some British research centre?is UN Convention's legitimacy questioned in such manner? Canada and Denmark are free to submit their claim into the corresponding UN Commission, as did Russia in 2001 and Norway in 2006 (see Territorial claims in the Arctic), but this issue is not within the scope of this article. So, I'm removing the following statement from the article:
However, Lindsay Parson (head of the Law of the Sea Group at the National Oceanography Centre in the UK) stated that Denmark (via Greenland) and Canada would have equally good chances of claiming the territory on this grounds, as the Lomonosov Ridge extends from Russia through the Arctic all the way to Greenland and northern Canada.[1] 86.100.231.115 15:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
It would seem to be that Russia is trying to claim more of the Arctic due to an untapped source of oil.
[edit] Flag planting / time capsule
It strikes me as noteworthy that the capsule contains the flag of the current political party of Russia. Imagine if the USA had performed this mission, and the subs had placed the Republican Party flag there! it would be an outrage - use of public funds to glorify the party who happen to be in power at the moment. Toby Douglass 16:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
- Any refrences to prove that the flag for "United Russia" was inside the capsule? Aren't there more important things to get all upset about? Say like Iraq?Besides, it WAS United Russia members who took part in this unprecedented mission.
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This article needs a rewrite to comply with generally accepted standards for written English.
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- >It strikes me as noteworthy that the capsule contains the flag of the current political party of Russia
It is a flag of the Russian Federation, everything is all right
Your applications it is absurdity
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Flag_of_Russia.svg Nikolay II in 1896 has assigned to this flag the status - official
--HungerGhost 15:31, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Flag of Abkhazia
According to User:Óðinn the flag of Abkhazia was left during this expendition, and not an earlier one. My reading of the cited source did not give this impression, since it said merely, "the flag of unrecognized Abkhazia was left in the North Pole during the last expedition there" which is quite ambiguous. The last expedition by who, when?
I am quite prepared to believe in good faith that the flag was left on this expedition, but I would be happier if another reliable source for this assertion could be found. Sheffield Steeltalkersstalkers 00:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- Another source added Óðinn 07:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
I revert the restoration of the info because it is irrelevant to the topic of article. Chris! my talk 02:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- Is planting of the Russian flag irrelevant also? What about the flag of United Russia? Óðinn 07:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Yes, flag was left. But not on the seabed. Artur Chilingarov said [1]: "Он и поднял флаг республики на льдине в районе Северного полюса" — "He raised the flag of the republic on a ice-floe near the North Pole". Here is only part of his phrase. And don't forget: "tens of other flags representing different regions and organizations involved in the expedition had been hoisted in the area almost simultaneously"[2];) Ychastnik APL 14:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I feel that User:Óðinn is trying to introduce pro-Abkhazia POV here by adding this flag thing. Chris! my talk 19:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] "Finnish paper claims Reuters used Titanic film shot"
"News agency Reuters used an image originating from the Hollywood blockbuster film Titanic as a photo of the Russian polar dive last week."
So, did they really dive or what? Read the story: [3]
This picture on Reuters.com is from Titanic!! [4]
yes it does appear to be--LtWinters 19:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Absurdity, fiction, Video: http://news.ntv.ru/114406/video/ --HungerGhost 04:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- Reuters and Rossiya had no their reporters onboard, so they used video of the same MIR subs from Titanic. NTV, linked above, sent their correspondent to icebreaker, and broadcasted actual shots, which are less spectacular but true.Garret Beaumain 20:09, 12 August 2007 (UTC)