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[edit] ARIA singles charts on Wikipedia

  • I've removed some information that pre-dates ARIA & therefore is not related to this topic. I'm thinking to start adding pages for weekly ARIA singles charts to Wikipedia, does anyone have a suitable table or format these should be in? ZlatkoT 14:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

For example:

ARIA Top 100 Singles - Week Commencing 16th January 2006
TW LW TI HP Title Artist Accreditation Co. Cat. No.
#1 1 5 1 Wasabi/Eye Of The Tiger Lee Harding Platinum SBME 82876768422
#2 2 7 2 Stickwitu Pussycat Dolls Gold UMA 9888582
#3 5 5 3 Goodbye My Lover James Blunt Gold EW/WAR 7567940582
#4 3 13 3 Push The Button Sugababes Platinum UMA 9874287
#5 6 10 1 Hung Up Madonna Platinum WARNER 9362428482
#6 4 9 1 My Humps Black Eyed Peas Platinum WARNER 9887259
#7 9 8 7 Everything I'm Not The Veronicas Gold WARNER 9362428692
#8 7 7 1 Maybe Tonight Kate DeAraugo Platinum SBME 82876768432
#9 8 7 4 Because Of You Kelly Clarkson Gold SBME 82876764132
#10 13 10 9 Moonshine Savage Gold DAWN/WAR 5101108962
#11 17 8 11 Listen To Your Heart DHT MOS/EMI MOSCD5044
#12 10 6 10 Lift Shannon Noll SBME 82876768372
#13 15 7 13 Window Shopper 50 Cent INR/UMA 9888358
#14 12 6 12 Don't Forget About Us Mariah Carey UMA 9889403
#15 14 5 13 Beat Of My Heart Hilary Duff FMR/WAR 2061641392
#16 11 19 2 These Boots Are Made For Walkin' Jessica Simpson Platinum COL/SBME 676046.2
#17 NEW Breathe Ricki-Lee SHOCK PUBLIC006
#18 21 5 17 Advertising Space Robbie Williams CAP/EMI 3500262
#19 16 14 7 Way To Go! Rogue Traders Gold COL/SBME 82876730002
#20 20 18 6 Pon De Replay Rihanna Platinum DEF/UMA 9884701
#21 NEW I Need You Disco Stewie Harrison MGM DSH220500
#22 19 15 11 Popcorn Crazy Frog Gold WEA/WAR 5101105902
#23 18 9 9 Pretty Vegas INXS EPI/SBME 82876756092
#24 22 12 8 Boyfriend Ashlee Simpson Gold GEF/UMA 9886895
#25 26 6 25 Good Times Tommy Lee UMA 9876133
#26 24 5 24 Jesus Of Suburbia Green Day WARNER 9362428642
#27 28 6 27 You Raise Me Up Westlife SBME 82876739522
#28 23 7 4 Jingle Bells Crazy Frog Gold WEA/WAR 5101115792
#29 27 21 2 You're Beautiful James Blunt Platinum EW/WAR 7567939372
#30 30 9 29 Ever The Same Rob Thomas EW/WAR 7567940422
#31 25 6 25 Luxurious Gwen Stefani INR/UMA 9888344
#32 29 16 1 Shine Shannon Noll Platinum SBME 82876729922
#33 31 9 22 Can I Have It Like That? Pharrell & Gwen Stefani VIR/EMI 3460762
#34 37 8 9 What's On Your Radio? The Living End CAP/EMI 3477592
#35 35 15 7 Tripping Robbie Williams Gold CAP/EMI 3440852
#36 34 16 8 Sunshine Ricki-Lee Gold SHOCK PUBLIC004
#37 33 8 30 Don't Bother Shakira EPI/SBME 82876752622
#38 36 18 3 Photograph Nickelback Gold RR/UMA RR39543
#39 40 15 12 Doctor Pressure Mylo MOS/EMI HUSSYCD5067
#40 32 21 1 Don't Cha Pussycat Dolls Platinum x2 UMA 9884367
#41 38 13 32 Crazy Simple Plan EW/WAR 7567939832
#42 41 8 24 Twisted Transistor Korn VIR/EMI 3474592
#43 43 19 13 Better Days Pete Murray COL/SBME 82876724792
#44 52 6 44 Turn On The Music Roger Sanchez CSR/MRA TINTCD5108
#45 39 14 1 Gold Digger Kanye West & Jamie Foxx Platinum DEF/UMA 9886735
#46 42 19 11 Dare Gorillaz Gold CAP/EMI 3404600
#47 50 9 43 Believe Me Fort Minor WARNER 9362428592
#48 45 9 36 One Way Ticket The Darkness EW/WAR 5101116062
#49 54 8 31 Gonna Take Some Time Jimmy Barnes & Mahalia Barnes LIB/WAR LIBSP71862
#50 51 17 25 Foxtrot Uniform Charlie Kilo Bloodhound Gang GEF/UMA 9885038
#51 46 13 29 Minds Eye/Woman Wolfmother MOD/UMA MODCDS025
#52 47 9 28 Cheap Trick Kinda Girl/Paris To Berlin Infernal CSR/MRA CSRCD50496
#53 48 17 22 Just Want You To Know Backstreet Boys JVE/SBME 82876720342
#54 49 17 14 Let Me Hold You Bow Wow COL/SBME 676060.2
#55 71 16 36 Heart Attacks & Callous Acts EP The Hot Lies LIB/WAR LIBEP71752
#56 53 22 1 Ghetto Gospel 2 Pac & Elton John Platinum INR/UMA 2103872
#57 63 7 54 Take It Tom Novy MOS/EMI HUSSYCD6069
#58 44 10 23 All Because Of You U2 UMA 9874520
#59 57 15 23 Belly Dancer (Bananza) Akon UMA 9883744
#60 58 15 34 We Be Burnin' Sean Paul EW/WAR 7567939272
#61 56 5 44 Juicebox The Strokes SBME 82876759722
#62 62 21 6 Don't Lie Black Eyed Peas Gold UMA 9884362
#63 55 10 43 Free Loop Daniel Powter WARNER 9362428362
#64 61 15 6 Shake It Off Mariah Carey Gold UMA 9886600
#65 64 15 16 Outta Control 50 Cent INR/UMA 9885269
#66 69 10 49 It's About To Blow DJ Peril WARNER 5101107342
#67 72 12 38 Teary Eyed Missy Elliot WARNER 7567939432
#68 85 11 39 Crazy Chick Charlotte Church SBME 82876719322
#69 65 9 65 You Gonna Want Me Tiga SHOCK ADICT158CD
#70 60 11 7 So Beautiful Darren Hayes ROA/SBME 301257-2
#71 75 9 45 Lock Up Your Daughters End Of Fashion CAP/EMI 3404912
#72 74 11 41 Mesmerized Faith Evans CAP/EMI 3312222
#73 59 14 5 Per Sempre (For Always) Anthony Callea SBME 82876725862
#74 68 19 8 Have A Nice Day Bon Jovi Gold UMA 9884894
#75 70 13 33 Party Starter Will Smith INR/UMA 9886574
#76 66 11 24 The Use Me EP Kid Courageous UMA SUGAREP1
#77 76 15 31 The Glamorous Life T-Funk MOS/EMI MOSCD5043
#78 83 19 34 Get Your Shine On Jesse McCartney FMR/WAR 2061641282
#79 67 11 42 Dreams The Game INR/UMA 9883712
#80 73 28 6 Das Kleine Krokadil (Crocodile Song) Schnappi Platinum UMA 9870332
#81 80 12 35 Round & Round Bodyrockers UMA 9873877
#82 98 10 63 Prologue - The Art Of War/Cherry Blossom Epitaph Behind Crimson Eyes BTC/MGM BTR011
#83 77 12 28 Pimpin' All Over The World Ludacris DEF/UMA 9887234
#84 93 21 19 I Want You Paris Avenue MOS/EMI HUSSYCD5063
#85 84 7 60 She's At The Club Touche MOS/EMI HUSSYCD5068
#86 78 11 43 How Could You Mario J/SBME 82876745742
#87 NEW Van She Van She MOD/UMA MODEP012
#88 97 4 73 Dirty Little Secret All American Rejects INR/UMA 9884832
#89 79 10 39 All About Us t.A.T.u INR/UMA 9885542
#90 82 9 74 Stay On My Side Tonight Jimmy Eat World INR/UMA 9885353
#91 90 22 22 The Sound Of White Missy Higgins ELEV/EMI ELEVENCD39
#92 81 12 26 Ein Lama In Yokohama Schnappi UMA 9871281
#93 87 11 41 Face Without A Name Kisschasy BPAR/EMI PAR114
#94 88 20 10 Cool Gwen Stefani INR/UMA 9884356
#95 86 20 15 Wake Up Hilary Duff FMR/WAR 2061641252
#96 89 12 25 I Don't Care Ricky Martin COL/SBME 676066.2
#97 99 28 9 Untitled (How Could This Happen To Me?) Simple Plan EW/WAR 7567937192
#98 94 31 24 Voodoo People The Prodigy SHOCK XLS219CDA
#99 R/E 17 25 Fix You Coldplay CAP/EMI 3410002
#100 R/E 13 30 Let's Get Down Supafly vs Fishbowl VIC/SHK ZIP005CD

[edit] ARIA Charts

I agree to the suggestion and someone should be adding more topics to the achivements page

[edit] Brazin/ARIA split

I can't help but feel that the news that Brazin will cease providing ARIA with sales data should be mentioned in the article. Brazin owns Sanity, HMV and Virgin Megastore, and the absence of these three (arguably only two, I don't know how big VM is) major music outlets' sales from the charts is sure to skew them in some manner--though it's likely too early to tell where. Does anyone feel like adding this somewhere? I wouldn't know where to put it, and don't know much about it. Here's a couple of links for anyone who wants to do some research: [1], [2], [3]. - 211.28.136.87 11:26, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I've added the requested information, although I wasn't aware of it before now. There seems to be an awful lot of duplication surrounding ARIA - we have separate articles for the ARIA charts, ARIA Music Awards and Australian Recording Industry Association. I think the information about the ARIA awards on this page could probably be removed, since they have their own article. Anybody disagree? Also, just a suggestion, perhaps this page should be renamed "Motorola ARIA charts" to come into line with the official name of the charts these days. Phil500 08:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
It was recently announced (November 11) amid little fanfare, that Brazin has now recommenced contributing to the ARIA charts (see references). I've changed the article to reflect this.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 07:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ARIA founding date

The ARIA founding date (1983) post-dates any chart success The Beatles had before that therefore is not an ARIA fact.ZlatkoT 08:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ARIA Chart Positions History

Does anyone know where you can find the history of the highest point reached for singles or albums. i can't find artist single/album positions on the ARIA website, only the end of year positions and the single/album accreditations. --Aljohnston 02:44, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Raid your local state library to see if they have archives of the ARIA Report. That's about the only place you can find old ARIA chart info, apart from having your own collection or knowing someone who has. David Kent's "Australian Chart Book 1970-1992" has top 100 singles & albums chart peaks that are identical/were used by ARIA until the end of June 1988. Nqr9 05:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New ARIA single charts format and Wikipedia

I've just noticed ARIA has changed the name of Singles Chart to Physical Singles Chart and made a new Singles Chart which features CD's and internet downloads combined. Am I right about this. Should Wikipedia use the new combined chart? I just noticed this when I was editing I Don't Feel Like Dancing thinking it was number 7 (physical) when it's number 3 (combined). Lakeyboy 07:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello, yeah in my opinion i recon that they should use this new Singles Chart, and yeah the singles chart is a combination of CD's and downloads. I found this news article on the ARIA webiste that might explain it better:) [4]. Lillygirl 8:18, 10 Ocotber 2006.
Cool. I think I'll use "Singles Charts"!!! RaNdOm26 16:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ARIA 100

Does anyone know a good spot to find the whole 100 positions of ARIA. And suitably an archive going back to 2003 or 2002? Tcatron565 14:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, yeah this website [5] has the ARIA Reports achived since 2001, but if you want top 50 charts since 1989, here's a good wesite [6]. Lillygirl 00:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Motorola plug in first par

I have removed this again. It may belong in an article about Motorola Australia but it's not notable in, or significant to, an article on music charts, and is against WP:NOT#SOAP: "Wikipedia is not a soapbox or a vehicle for propaganda and advertising."

It is also against Wikipedia:Spam:"Wikipedia is not a space for personal promotion or the promotion of products". If it is reverted again I will put a {{Cleanup-spam}} tag on the article.

See also: Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Advertisers.

What would Wikipedia be like if we listed every single sponsorship deal in history? Grant65 | Talk 01:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I have replaced the Motorola statement again, although I have moved it to the end of the top section, as I agree that it is probably not the most notable feature of the ARIA charts. However, as I have already stated, this alliance is factual information, supported by legitimate referencing. The statement is written from an objective view, and does not "plug" Motorola or any of Motorola's products. Check out the officialwebsite for the ARIA charts, and you will find that the Motorola sponsorship is being pushed very strongly by ARIA. For another example, look at the articles about two tennis tournaments: the Medibank International and theAustralian Open. Both of these articles mention the major sponsor of these events in a neutral way and there have been no allegations of bias or spamming.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 02:40, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

You will need to do more than that to convince me, I'm afraid, especially as you have not dealt with the basic issues of Wikipedia policy that I raised above. Lots of things that are factual are not mentioned in articles. The basic issue is that this is a particularly insidous form of advertising/spam.
There is also the matter of WP:notability. We can't include mention of each and every sponsor, past and present, of everyone and everything that has a Wikipedia article. In terms of notability, the relevant questions are, does Motorola compile the charts? (No.) Would the charts exist without Motorola? (Yes.) Is Motorola a record company with a vested interest, raising questions of corruption which need to be mentioned in the article? (No.)
Thanks for the tip re the Australian Open. I have now removed the mention of the sponsor there as well. The Medibank International is a bit different in that it is embedded in the name, like Pura Cup. Grant65 | Talk 06:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
In reply to the policies you raised above,
  • WP:NOT#SOAP states that propaganda, advocacy, self-promotion or advertising should not be included. I fail to see how a simple statement informing readers that Motorola sponsors this chart can be considered propaganda or advocacy of Motorola. Just to be clear, I am not connected with Motorola, nor do I have any particular interest in them, so this is not self-promotion. Finally, this policy also explicitly states: "Articles about companies and products are acceptable if they are written in an objective and unbiased style." This article refers to Motorola in an objective and unbiased style. Your first point is therefore void.
  • Wikipedia:Spam is a policy which goes towards blatant advertising and misuse of Wikipedia as a forum to sell goods and services. The policy also refers to external links to websites which promote such goods and services. The only external link in relation to this sponsorship is a link to an article provided on ARIA's own website, completely disconnected from any Motorola advertorial content.
  • Wikipedia:Replies_to_common_objections#Advertisers defines some unacceptable forms of advertising: "adding excessive external links to one's company, outright replacing of legitimate articles with advertising, and writing glowing articles on one's own company." There are no external links to Motorola contained in this article. None of this article's content has been replaced by advertising, merely the addition of an objective statement that the ARIA chart has a corporate sponsor. In accordance with Wikipedia's neutrality policy, the article does not describe Motorola in "glowing" terms, on the other hand, nor is it critical of such sponsorship. This policy does not support your argument.
  • In regard to your latest point regarding WP:notability, while I agree with you that Motorola does not compile the charts, it is not up to us to speculate whether or not the ARIA charts would exist without Motorola. It is no secret that ARIA chart data is no longer used by programs such as Rage or take40australia, so perhaps the sponsorship was necessary to keep the charts afloat. Your point here is merely speculation.
  • Finally, Wikipedia is not censored. Removing details of corporate sponsorship, where such details are factually proven and presented in an objective manner, breaches this policy by denying the reality that corporate sponsorship exists in many areas of modern life, whether we like it or not. Launching some sort of vendetta against every article that mentions corporate sponsorship is equivalent to censoring Wikipedia.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 10:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

To answer your points in turn: (1) The article is not about Motorola and the point is, who cares who sponsors ARIA, apart from Motorola (and to a lesser degree ARIA)? Our job is not to support ARIA's profitability (as if they need any help). To take a counterfactual approach, if -- instead of Motorola -- it was John Farnham or Michael Gudinski sponsoring ARIA, then that would be newsworthy and notable. (2 & 3) Spam takes many forms and it is not just direct links to commercial websites. As I have asked you before -- and you still have not addressed this -- are we now going to allow details of every sponsor who has ever sponsored any person/organisation/event/subject of an article in Wikipedia? If we allow it on one occasion, we will not have any excuse to stop it anywhere. (4) See point 1. (5) Wikipedia is not censored but it clearly does not assist companies who have nothing to do with the thing they are sponsoring, other than giving them money for their own promotional purposes. Our basic policy is no different to that of the BBC, ABC and many other media organisations. Not to mention other encyclopedias! Grant65 | Talk 15:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Agreed with all points made by Grant65. It has been sponsored by various companies over the years, I don't think it's terribly relevant. It also makes the encyclopaedia much harder to keep factual and up to date if we have little factoids that could change at any moment lying around the place. Orderinchaos78 12:09, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Having reviewed all the above comments, I am now inclined to agree with the comments made by Orderinchaos78. I agree that the statement is not all that relevant to an article about music charts, and would not be terribly disappointed to see it deleted. My main objection was to the manner in which the offending statement was treated by Grant. If I remember correctly, I was actually the editor who originally added this comment, believing at the time that it was factually relevant. Had it been removed with an edit summary such as "Sponsorship details are too trivial/irrelevant for inclusion," I would have accepted the deletion and moved on. However, having originally added the comment in good faith, I was rather offended by Grant labelling it as "insidious spam," and a "plug for Motorola," when in reality, it was never intended to be either of those things. I felt that I needed to defend my actions in originally adding the statement. Having clarified the issue, I would now accept the deletion of this statement from the article.--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 09:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other chart #1s

Would it be possible to get a list of the songs/artists that reached #1 on ARIA Urban, Club Play and (discontinued) Alternative charts?

[edit] Avril Lavigne

Avril Lavigne's "Girlfriend" did not debut at number 1. It debuted at number 3 and moved up to number 1 in its second week. You can visit http://www.australian-charts.com for proof. I have removed the part that said it debuted at number 1. 211.30.60.106 02:45, 18 April 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Printed release

Doesn't the printed release come on Saturday nowadays?

[edit] Ommited No.1

Didn't I wish I was a punk rocker with flowers in my hair by sandi thom top the aria charts for ten weeks between sexyback and saints are coming? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sungkwo (talk • contribs) 13:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Madonna number one hit count

According to Madonna singles discography, she has had 12 number one songs from 11 singles. The heading of the section in which this is listed under is just labelled as "hits" and does not clearly define what qualifies. I'm referring to "Angel" and "Into the Groove". According to footnote 4, both songs were on the one record, but both songs went to number one. Perhaps some clarification is needed. I believe this should say 12, not 11. It was listed as 11 before "4 Minutes" went to #1. --Lakeyboy (talk) 04:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)