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[edit] Literary references

Is it me, or is the majority of names on this list a collection of comic book, cartoon and video game references? Aside from Moriarty, there are reletively no literary references. .... - Nick15 00:18, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Entymology

Does this term come from the idea of archery? Arch enemies against eachother?

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seems most plausible.

I don't think so; "arch-" seems to be a general prefix meaning "most important", as in archdeacon, archduke and, for Discworld fans, Archchancellor. It might be Greek. Daibhid C 15:15, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many archenemies

A number of characters are listed as having four or five archenemies. I think two is just about acceptable (especially if they're different kinds of enemy), but beyond that they're simply not archenemies any more. You can't have half a dozen "most significant foes"; it just stops meaning anything. Daibhid C 20:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I went through and rearranged some, where the archenemies were either misplaced or wrongly attributed. I also took out enemies who were simply "rogues" and not overtly more important than other villains. Spider-Man, Superman and Batman are the ones where it's hardest to define their "greatest" enemy, since they have often faced several that dig under their skin or hold a great deal of power. Cybertooth85 02:17, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Actually, I think it's pretty clear that, at least from the perception of the general public, that Batman's archenemy is the Joker, and Superman's archenemy is Lex Luthor. Spider-man is a bit tougher to categorize, because Green Goblin, Doc Ock, and Venom are all about equally famous.
Also, I'm concerned that other types of villains, such as secondary villains (i.e. Jabba the Hutt or Boba Fett), or Big Bads (i.e. the season major villains from Buffy), are being listed as arch-enemies when they really don't qualify as such. This is especially true for TV shows. If a character is the main villain in one season, but is killed off and replaced by another character in the next season, then he's not really an "arch-enemy" unless he was the major villain for the majority of the franchise's run, or he's made a major impact on the franchise that continues to echo long after his initial "death". I.E. the Master from Buffy, Murdoc from McGuyver, Slade/Deathstroke from Teen Titans. Just my 2 cents. Joylock 05:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
A number of characters listed under the archenemies section seem to be there due solely to their importance in a respective series. However, this does not appear to be consistant with the definition given in the opening paragraph, in that they are not primarily associated with a perticular character. Sauron, for instance, is listed as being the archenemy in Lord of the Rings, yet if 'archenemy' is taken to mean the primary antagonist toward a perticular character or fictional organization, he really doesn't seem to qualify as an archenemy, despite being the primary antagonist toward the series as a whole. Of course, my understanding of the term archenemy may be somewhat inaccurate. 66.24.238.22 (talk) 01:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
I am not trying to imply a lack of overlap between 'archenemies' and 'main antagonists' if taken as seperate categories, only that an 'archenemy' tends to relate to a perticular character, where a 'main antagonist' tends to relate to relate to a series as a whole. Again, I may be misunderstanding these terms.66.24.238.22 (talk) 01:26, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Tim McKeon

Tim McKeon doesn't exist. Who keeps putting that name there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.86.18.41 (talk) 20:46, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Archenemies of Superman

I believe that DC Comics' Ultraman is another archenemy of Superman, as in a dark mirror. Kanjilearner 13:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Naruto section...

Naruto isnt a cartoon ..its orgin came from the manga which is a comic book (in western terms) just like Dragon Ball Z ...76.28.224.23 08:52, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] List of archenemies

When does the list of archenemies get put back on? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RedOrange&Blue (talk • contribs) 19:32, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit]  ??

Why can't I edit this article? Is it because I'm knew? —Preceding unsigned comment added by fiercedeitylinkX 4:19PM, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] archenemy list

Maybe we should do all the archenemies in seperate ways but one in the same Comic book and Literature archenemies, tv show archenemies, movie archenemies, cartoon archenemies, and video game archenemies. Do that so that so it doesn't get too crowed abit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.101.238 (talk) 08:24, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] personal significance

Where it is currently mentioned that qualifiers for a character being an archenemy include the scale on which they operate, how often they act as a threat compared to others, or their posing the greatest physical threat. However, it would seem that many characters are regarded as being archenemies due to having a more personal effect upon the hero, such as being responsible for a tragedy in the heroes life. I am not proposing that this article be greatly expanded on, only that this reason be added to the current list. 66.24.238.22 (talk) 01:29, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] No Citations

If there are no reliable references to prove that two characters are archenemies then I think they should be removed what does everyone else think? Dwanyewest (talk) 03:48, 19 May 2008 (UTC)