Talk:Arby's
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[edit] Triarc
I know Triarc owns Arby's but shouldn't Triarc have their own page? Currently en.wikipedia.org/wiki/triarc gives you the Arby's page. I know Triarc also owns Deerfield capital management llc, and at one point owned snapple. I think company information is more appropriate than Arby's information for the Triarc page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.167.40.115 (talk) 16:48, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, Triarc should have its own page. The problem is that no one has made one yet. Someone just redirected Triarc here because no page existed and Arby's is closly related. -NatureBoyMD (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 17:49, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
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- Since the purchase of Wendy's, the company will be or already has renamed itself to Wendy's. Inc. I have redirected the Triarc to that page. It will need to be edited.--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 05:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Arby's Sauce
Arby's sauce needs to be mentioned in this article.
[edit] Name origins
I read the explanation of the name "Arby's" in the article. I always thought that the R.B. stood for roast beef. Any idea if they picked the initials because of the double meaning? ike9898
- I've heard American roast beef, yes sir. Doesn't sound too likely to me, but I have heart it... Tuf-Kat 19:37, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)
- Yeah, someone told me that once, but I don't know...maybe they once had an ad campaign that said that. ike9898
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- They did have such a campaign, in the 1970s. The name predates the use of the "acronym" in advertising, however. UninvitedCompany 18:18, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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- As told by the official Arby's story, available on their website, it states the name was chosen to stand for Raffel Brothers, and it was merely coincidence that it also could be interpreted as Roast Beef. Direct Quote from website: So, in the words of Forrest, "We came up with Arby's, which stands for R.B., the initials of Raffel Brothers, although I guess customers might think the initials stand for roast beef." This is required knowledge of employees at Arby's (I know because I am one). --SnakeSoldier 11:05, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
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[edit] Arby's "roast beef" vs "real" roast beef?
Perhaps someone could add a section discussing what Arby's calls "roast beef" (which seems to be a luncheon-meat-like loaf of processed, compressed meat which is then sliced in the restaurant) versus "real" roast beef (i.e. slices cut off of a beef roast)? I've always wondered a bit about how and why they go that particular route.
--Robotech_Master 06:18, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
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- Arby's roast beef is 70% lean beef chunks, 22% beef cuts (50/50 ratio fat to lean), and 8% water, salt, and tripoli phosphates. It is then roasted in the store at 200 degrees for 3 to 4 hours or until it is between 138-140 degrees internal temperature. Therefore it is pretty much like traditional roast beef except with added water, salt, and phosphates for nutrient retention and flavor.
--marv3fan
Pretty much like traditional roast beef, other than the fact that it tastes nothing like roast beef, and the texture is nothing like "real" roast beef. Actually, Arby's had "real" roast beef until the mid-to-late-70's, when they abruptly switched to the processed combination product. I haven't been back since. A combination of beef chunks + beef cuts + additives is nothing like slicing beef off a real roast.
This should definitely be in the article.
[edit] Triarc/ARG/RTM
An error in the entry. Triarc didn't buy ARG but had controlled ARG all along. Triarc bought out RTM, who had currently owned more than 70% of the stores in the united states. They then moved from their corporate offices in Fort Lauderdale to the RTM corporate offices in Atlanta. If someone could add more information about the buy-out, it'd be much appreciated. I'm very poor with organization, so I can only give you this page as reference about the buyout:
http://www.emergers.com/Transaction.140/current_category.0/transactions_detail.html
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=67548&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=715069&highlight=
http://www.triarc.com/business_arbys.html
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2005/05/30/daily2.html
Marv3fan 04:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
That's nothing like real roast beef you sound like someone who works at arbys and is trying to coerce people into not adding this to the article.
I was actually hoping someone would add it to the article. I just wanted to give the fact.Marv3fan
[edit] errors on article
A bunch of errors on the article. First off, icing (not frosting, there's a difference) on the turnovers is supposed to be 7-9 stripes. I just checked, this is in the OSM (Operating Standards Manual) so it's very much not franchise specific but Arby's specific. The shirts vary by store and franchise. It all depends on the stores color schemes. Also, beef is supposed to be cooked to 138-140 degrees. This is also Arby's specific and not franchise specific. If you guys need a scan of the training books that state this (they're not copyright) I'd be glad to scan. I could also scan the OSM, but those pictures cannot be put into the article and neither can the text, as that is completely copyright. I do think the burden of proof should be on the people placing the text in to the article, though. But if it comes to people reverting it back I'll be glad to provide proof against what was written in the article. --Marv3fan 18:13, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] the food listing
the food listing is very lacking, and a bit outdated. most of the stores are now Triarc/ARG/RTM whatever and most of these items are either edited or discontinued. IE: The junior roast beef comes on a 3.5 inch bun with 1.5 oz of roast beef. The only real exception anymore to the RTM/ARG franchise is a very small regional market and a few mall stores. Can we also add about how they just Hello grilled chicken?
--Marv3fan 18:18, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Silly drive-thru photo
Does the drive-thru photo really belong in this article? It doesn't really identify Arby's. Seems like someone keen on uploading his digital camera photos to Wikipedia. I think it should be removed as un-encyclopedic and just plain silly. Phiwum 16:50, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
agreed. --Marv3fan 04:25, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia Section
Does the trivia section really belong here? Why are we recording what the Simpsons have said about Arby's? I vote to pull it off, but some of it was just put up, and it's rude to insta-revert someone who wasn't vandalizing. Does anyone else see any merit in removing the trivia section, or at least trimming it down? -Diabolic 12:56, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Gotta disagree with you on this one. It's Arby's Specific and something someone can use as a reference (IE: popular culture view on Arby's). I think it's a nice little subsection Marv3fan 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi there...am one of the people who contributed to the "Arby's in Pop Culture" section that has been cut and thus am horribly biased. But I thought it belonged for a specific reason, which was that when I bumbled upon this Wiki article on Arby's, it read as if it could have been written by the corporation itself, with virtually nothing that couldn't have come from pro-Arby's people. There's currently a minor neg note about some items having trans-fats in them, but otherwise it seemed a bit too rah-rah. I actually LIKE Arby's food, but the fact that there's so much anti-Arby's rhetoric in pop culture seems significant. It seems noteworthy that in a variety of pop culture venues--Seinfeld, the Simpsons, alternacomix, etc.--Arby's is a symbol of bad taste, the depths to which people will descend when they're desperately hungry, etc. You don't hear those pointed, negative jokes about McDonald's. Hence this seemed like a phenomenon worth noting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.188.193 (talk) 06:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Arby's Name
Removed uncited name source. For the actual name source, see: Arby's history. Rklawton 19:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Rephrasing about the pickles!!!
"They don't put pickles on their sandwiches anymore because they are cheap."
Who or what is cheap? The pickles or the company!
This sentence needs reworking. Is the company trying to save a few pennies by not putting pickles. Or simply because the pickles tend to make a roast beef sandwich somewhat ordinary?
[edit] Advertising reverted
It looks like the article was hit by an Arby's employee with lots of ® symbols, stock symbols, and all the links were gone. There may be some useful info in the ad-bot version but it was mainly unsourced and/or fluff. -SCEhardT 22:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reno!
Added a Reno 911! reference...they've actually done it in a few episodes but I could only recall one.
[edit] Matt Kenseth
Why is Matt Kenseth mentioned in this article? I don't look to Wikipedia to learn about their corporate sponsorships of NASCAR, how much they contribute to the Atlanta Symphony, or the type of trash bags they use. All of this falls under the category of 'internal corporate matters' and really has no place here.
I have added to the article saying that Matt Kenseth is a nascar driver.72.185.44.3 18:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Arby's
Daniel Arby had nothing to do with the Arby's roast beef chain. The articles should not be merged. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.172.8.11 (talk) 11:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Oven Mitt
I heard that the oven mitt mascot came about by accident - the person who created it had mistaken the cowboy hat logo for an oven mitt. 164.76.147.103 23:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Culture References
I would think if it does not explicitly say Arbys it should not be listed. The products Arby's sell can be sold by other restaurants. FYI the Trapped in the Drive Thru song by Mister Weird Al, has cheeseburgers in it which means it can not be Arbys as they do not use grills or hamburg meat. As for Die Hard, I do think that is a decent culture Reference since Arby's has been promoting the movie in the stores in the month of June. --Mihsfbstadium 02:47, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Since "Big Montana" already redirects here, shouldn't the tag "It has been suggested that Big Montana be merged into this article or section" be removed? 89.137.156.57 16:01, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Trans-fat
This page claims that Arby's has eliminated trans-fat from all of their food items, but I went to arbys.com to look at the nutrition facts, and most of the foods still have trans-fat. A few examples are large curly fries, which have 1 gram of trans-fat, and most of their sandwiches have 1-3 or 4 grams of trans-fat. If you can, go to arbys.com yourself. You'll see it when you find the nutrition facts. I can't explain how to do it, so you're on your own. BTW, will whoever put the claim that Arby's eliminated trans-fat in May 2007 please give further details about this claim? Thanks. C4pt4in W1k1
- As far as I know most if not all of the current products are trans fat free. The key thing to remember is that for a product to be labeled as Trans Fat Free it needs to have less than .5 mg. --Mihsfbstadium (talk) 05:06, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Original Arby's in Boardman, Ohio
Alright, the original Arby's is still in operation in Boardman (along with at least three other Arby's I know of in the Township), and I have no problem listing it. However, listing it as being in a "bigger building" is not as notable. I live within very short driving distance of Boardman, so I can take a picture if needed. (And I don't think its really necessary at this time, since we already have pics of Arby's locations up.) It's still in the older-style Arby's building. Unless the old building gets remodeled in the near future (and Arby's is currently renovating some of their older locations), I don't think the "bigger building" quotation needs to be mentioned. Jgera5 (talk) 16:12, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Paragraph on Toasted Sandwiches
Is it me, or does the paragraph about Arby's adding toasted sandwiches (under "Today") sound more advert-like than encyclopedic? Stagebear (talk) 23:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Nope it is being phased into the stores and should be close to being in all of the stores shortly. The cost to do so is expensive. I heard something around well over a grand for each store. With well over 3,000 stores its not a small expense. --Mihsfbstadium (talk) 05:05, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Question
Where does Arbys get their beef product from? Can the public buy it?
68.110.178.243 (talk) 03:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Kevin Sorenson
Whoever changed the article and listed Kevin Sorenson on here as founding Arby's - the link to Sorenson says he was born in 1958 meaning he would have been 6 years old when Arby's was founded in 1964. Someone should fix that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.36.104.94 (talk) 09:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
- This has been fixed. -NatureBoyMD (talk) 18:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Tag about reading as advertisement.
I am wondering why this article is tagged as such. I know one section talks about current items being done in the world of Arby's and the menu is concise for being as large as it is. The majority ie over 50% is about the history of Arby's. --Mihsfbstadium (talk) 05:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- the poster does not like the company and first tried to speedy delete the article and when that failed he added the advert tag. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 05:32, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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- The telegnostic skill of the editor above (whose name I do not try to untangle from its WP mark-upping) is sadly ill-developed. I flagged the article as ad-like. I hit on the article by chance, not knowing the company existed. It's manifestly like an advertisement. I do not know what passes for an advertizement in the USA, with advertorials, product placement, and general pulling of wool over audiences' eyes. Look skeptically at a few TV ads and note how many do not say "Pobjoy's Patent Goodgum sticks the best" until they've wandered thru utterly irrelevant scenes of frisking lambs, frisking young women, burbling babies and heavenly heavens. The company's website, not WP, is the place to find what food it sells, unless, perhaps, there is something insanely unusual such as baby goose feathers fricasseed in motor oil with mahogany chips. One claim above that the article is not an ad matches reminds me of the curate's description of his rotten egg as "Very good, in parts".--SilasW (talk) 16:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
- Wow, someone got their panties in knot today and went whole hog into the thesaurus. Do me a favor take the thesaurus of yours, add a dictionary and some editing skills and fix what you feel to be advertisements.
- I personally have read and edited a gross of food related articles (no puns intended, though some of the stuff is) and this is mild, someone cut and paste some of the descriptions of the products from the company's page. It is nowhere near being an advert. --Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 17:44, 16 May 2008 (UTC)