Talk:Arab members of the Knesset

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Contents 1 Incomplete 2 Name change 3 Religion 4 Reorganised 5 Conflics with the official Knesset website

[edit] Incomplete

I've been putting this page together in pieces over the last while, and it remains incomplete, particularly between the third and thirteenth Knessets. I have organized the list by party within each Knesset, adding a wikilink the first time a party or person is listed within each Knesset. One difficulty I've had is finding a standard spelling for many Arabic names, as many of these figures are listed differently in various sources, as well as on various Wikipedia pages. If you find Wikipedia entries for more of the figures listed here, please add a wikilink with the proper spelling. The same is true for political parties with both English and Hebrew names. Also, please add this as a *See also where appropriate.Cheeselouise 23:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Name change

I think the title should change to: Arab members of the Knesset. It sounds more correct. --Shamir1 01:06, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Religion

When MKs have "Christian" or "Druze" appended to their names, their personal theology is not being referred to, but their cultural identity. Removing that info with the rationale that 'they are atheists' doesn't seem appropriate unless we remove all cultural identification. Tewfik^Talk 21:59, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

In exactly what way is Hisham Nafa's cultural identity different from Mohamed Barakeh? Their cultural identity is Arab. But zionists have a fixation with defining their identity for them in order to divide them. ابو علي 23:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Unfortunately the Zionist plan has already been effected on articles like Palestinian Christian and Arab citizens of Israel. Are there any other thoughts on the issue? Tewfik^Talk 02:03, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I am all for consistency. But do you think that List_of_current_members_of_the_United_States_House_of_Representatives or List of United Kingdom MPs should lable each MP as christain/protestant christain/souther baptist, jew etc? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Abu ali (talk • contribs) 10:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC).

Clearly this has nothing to do with their personal religious beliefs, and so his being an atheist is irrelevant. That Arab citizens of Israel maintain distinct ethnic and religious groupings is noted in that article. Likewise, the demographics of Members of the 110th United States Congress are noted in that entry, and are further detailed in African Americans in the United States Congress, List of Asian Pacific Americans in the United States Congress, and List of Hispanic Americans in the United States Congress. Tewfik^Talk 02:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Uncivil attack removed PalestineRemembered 17:07, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I have no problem with the labels being removed - I don't see their relevance, and if someone is really interested, they can click through to the full article on the MKs. Number 57 22:05, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reorganised

I have reorganised the article in a way that I think is more concise, and added a few MKs more to the list (I can't find any more on the Knesset website, but I may be mistaken). I have also removed references to religion (apart from Majadele being the first Muslim minister), though if you think they are important you can add them to the comments section. I welcome your opinions on the change. Number 57 14:27, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I primarily objected to the selective removal on what I viewed as illegitimate grounds (personal religious beliefs instead of cultural identity), but I don't have strong feelings either way. Either way, your organisation is a welcome improvement. Tewfik^Talk 21:37, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Conflics with the official Knesset website

The Knesset's website allows you do an advanced search for MKs where you can specify "minority" and it will list all the Arab or Druze MKs, and the total it lists is 54 (42 Arab, 12 Druze)--a total not reflected by the 59 listed here. After a closer look, it is apparent that the Knesset website is likely incorrect, as it does not list the following five MKs as being Arab, even though other sources say they are: Haneh Hadad, Abdulwahab Darawshe, Rafik Haj Yahia, Hashem Mahameed, and Walid Sadik. Any ideas for why this may be? Cheeselouise 23:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)